3nm Antlia Narrowband Filters

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Kurt Zeppetello avatar
I recently upgraded my ZWO 7nm Ha and OIII filters with the 3nm Antlia Pro filters and could not be happier. I purchased the ZWO filters as part of a kit when I purchased the ZWO ASI1600MM 5 years ago. I have been very satisfied with the ZWO filters as the did their job for a relatively inexpensive price. However, as my processing improved my images seemed to reach a maximum detail/sharpness yet I suspect they could have been better. Since then Antlia introduced a 3nm Pro version of their narrowband and at a price that I could afford. Astrodon and Chroma existed but they were a little out of my price range. So how good are these filters? I made two YouTube videos which show the experiments and results:

Just How Good is the Antlia 3nm OIII Filter?  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJZ-KWoS-KY&t=11s

3nm Antlia Narrowband Filters - Part 2) Hydrogen 3nm vs. 7nm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0r3NkIawEs&t=5s 

Oxygen Comparison
I compared my new Antlia 3nm OIII Pro Imaging filter with my current ZWO 7nm OIII filter. Since I have an open position on my ZWO EFW, it was very convenient to make a good quality comparison. I hoped and expected the Antlia to perform better since it was 3nm vs. 7nm and I was not disappointed!

The experiment took place on 12-29-22 around 9 pm. I collected nine 5-minute subs of IC 410 using the ZWO OIII filter but only kept seven. I then switched to the Antlia OIII filter where I again collected nine 5-minute subs but kept eight. The temperature of the ZWO ASI1600 was set at -20 degrees C. 

Some the highlights:
- smaller stars including no halos around large stars
- increased sharpness and detail
- better nebula definition 


Hydrogen Comparison
I compared my new Antlia 3nm Ha Pro Imaging filter with my current ZWO 7nm Ha filter. Since I have an open position on my ZWO EFW, it was very convenient to make a good quality comparison. I hoped and expected the Antlia to perform better since it was 3nm vs. 7nm and I was not disappointed! 

The experiment took place on 1-16-22 around 9 pm. I collected three 5-minute subs of IC 410 using the ZWO Ha filter. I then switched to the Antlia Ha filter where I again collected three 5-minute subs. The temperature of the ZWO ASI1600 was set at -20 degrees C. No post processing was done on any of the images.

Some the highlights:
- smaller stars
- slightly increased sharpness and detail
- better nebula definition 

I plan on purchasing the 3nm Antlia SII filter in the near future. 
Lastly, no processing was done on any of these images except stacking!


Fig 1 - ZWO OIII


Fig 2 - Antlia OIII


Fig 3 - ZWO Ha


Fig 4 - Antlia Ha
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Tim Hawkes avatar
Hi Kurt,  very useful thankyou.  You have provided a nice practical answer to a question raised in this former thread https://www.astrobin.com/forum/c/astrophotography/deep-sky/how-much-improvement-does-a-3-nm-oiii-filter-provide-over-6-nm/

I have a 6 nm OIII filter and in theory (as KS_observer pointed out in the referenced thread) going to a 3 nm OIII should provide a 1.41 X improvement in SNR -- and your data seem pretty consistent with that expectation.

Improvement with the 3 nm HA filter is also definitely there too in your pictures.  Having an F4 and an F5 system  I think that the 3 nm OIII filter will work out so I intend to get one.   I will probably still stick with the 7 nm HA though because I do like to image HA in galaxies and 3 nm is too tight when you take into account the red shift.
Tim
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Kurt Zeppetello avatar
Thanks for the info Tim. In fact I was only planning on just the OIII for and waiting to get the Ha and SII over the course of the year. I believe you are correct with the 7nm and red shift on faster systems. Cuiv, the Lazy Geek has some videos on this very topic.  - Cheers Kurt
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