Best power supply for equipment?

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Sebastian Politsch avatar
I recently got a Sky-Watcher EQM-35 and I realized this thing eats a lot of electrons. 

Now I need a proper power supply and I was wondering what you guys would recommend and what you use for yourselves.
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Joe Linington avatar
I use a standard $20, 10A switching power supply from Amazon and it powers my mount, USB heaters, EFW, EAF, guide camera and main cooled camera. I use the same power supply for my primary rig with a much more expensive EQ6R. The only thing I don't run off of the 10A is my computer. Unless a power supply is complete trash, it will make decent enough power for an EQM-35. This is a link to Amazon Canada but I am sure you can find the same thing in your home country.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0B553QK46/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Wim van Berlo avatar
I use a 12v MeanWell supply. 150 W I believe it's rated at. It powers all my equipment.

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Wim
enta avatar
Idk about the "best" but I'm very happy with my EB70 from Bluetti
My setup with 2600 @ -10C, CEM70, EAF, 120mm guidecam, asiair, two heaters and a wifi router demands between 50-60w/h and it's just enough to come through a night on a single charge.
So far I got around 80 cycles and everything working fine.

I wouldn't use anything with less capacity or you'll have to end your session early.
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Arun H avatar
I use a Powerwerx regulated power supply. You can run it at 12V, but pretty much all astro equipment can take the higher 14.1V (check with the manufacturer).

This is connected to a Rigrunner distribution stripwhich supplies power to all my equipment (USB hub, focuser, dew heater, camera, mount). You can get the required cables from Powerwerx or make your own. The power pole connections are very secure.

For remote, you can simply connect a LiFePO4 battery to the strip and you are done.
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I just purchased an Anker PowerHouse 757.  It gets great astro reviews and will power my Asiair, cooled ZWO camera and EQ6-R pro mount for several nights.  It’s on sale now through Anker and you get back an additional $50 after the return period has ended (30 days) as a member.
Patrick Graham avatar
If I have access to an AC power outlet, I run everything thru a power strip using the supplied power adaptor the individual components come with.   If out in a remote dark sky spot,  I use a combination of an Ego battery for my Paramount and a Jackery 1000 for my laptop and the other imaging components.  My ZWO AM5 runs on a Goal Zero 500.  I find I usually poop out before any of the batteries do.  Hope this helps, too.

Clear skies,

Patrick
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Joe Linington avatar
Patrick Graham:
If I have access to an AC power outlet, I run everything thru a power strip using the supplied power adaptor the individual components come with.   If out in a remote dark sky spot,  I use a combination of an Ego battery for my Paramount and a Jackery 1000 for my laptop and the other imaging components.  My ZWO AM5 runs on a Goal Zero 500.  I find I usually poop out before any of the batteries do.  Hope this helps, too.

Clear skies,

Patrick

None of my 3 Sky Watcher mounts came with a power supply. The available Sky Watcher power supply is nothing special but costs 3-4x what a nearly identical one from Amazon does.
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Christian Großmann avatar
Idk about the "best" but I'm very happy with my EB70 from Bluetti
My setup with 2600 @ -10C, CEM70, EAF, 120mm guidecam, asiair, two heaters and a wifi router demands between 50-60w/h and it's just enough to come through a night on a single charge.
So far I got around 80 cycles and everything working fine.

I wouldn't use anything with less capacity or you'll have to end your session early.

The power consumption @enta has given is what I experienced with a similar setup. I used a 100AH lead battery back then. But lead batteries have same drawbacks. You need one that's made for cyclic use. Then you may take care to ensure it's not too empty after a session. Otherwise it may die very fast.

Whatever powersupply you plan to use, make sure it has some spare capacity. For an AC supply, you may need one that delivers at least 1/3rd more power than what you may have measured or calculated. There is a lot of intelligence (mikrocontrollers, processors,etc) in many of the equipment nowadays. They need power at the moment they switch their millions of transistors. So the spikes in the current flow are very fast and hard to measure with simple equipment most people have. Everything may run fine until a certain point. Especially in cold or hot weather, nothing behaves as expected. There may occur some problems, you will spend days to find the solution (maybe never find it). At the end, the power supply is one thing most people didn't think of as solution. I did have some trouble with some of my devices and changing the power supply solved a lot of my problems.

If you go for a battery, a LiPo might be the way to go. With a lead battery, you may only be able to use half of it's capacity to keep it alive for a longer time. LiPos are more expensive, but they handle cyclic use much better. Usually they have controllers built in to prevent them from states they could not handle.

There are a lot of solutions out there and many of them were suggested above. I just want to add some thoughts about things to take care of. I hope you find the right supply for your needs...

CS

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Axel avatar
I am very happy with this one: VTOMAN Jump 1500X 1500W/828Wh LiFePO4.
I lasts 2-3 Nights with my Equipment AZ EQ6pro/ASIAIR+/ASI2600mm/ZWO EAF/ZWO EFW/ASI120mini/2x Heater.

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Michael Ring avatar
At home I use a simple 12V 4A power supply for both mount and the camera/mini-pc.

On the road I recently switched to a 100Ah LiFePo4 battery, much,much lighter that my previus 100Ah AGM battery.

This allows me to run 3 rigs through the whole night, I will still have to see how LiFePo4 behaves in the winter but so far the battery is less than half empty so I should be good…

For only one rig I would go for a 50Ah LiFePo4 battery, they are reasonably priced and should have more than enough juice for a single night.
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Jim Raskett avatar
Joe Linington:
I use a standard $20, 10A switching power supply from Amazon and it powers my mount, USB heaters, EFW, EAF, guide camera and main cooled camera. I use the same power supply for my primary rig with a much more expensive EQ6R. The only thing I don't run off of the 10A is my computer. Unless a power supply is complete trash, it will make decent enough power for an EQM-35. This is a link to Amazon Canada but I am sure you can find the same thing in your home country.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0B553QK46/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I do basically what Joe does except I use one 2x5A (Amazon BZONE SUPERNIGHT(TM) 100V - 240V to DC 12V 5A Switching Power Supply Adapter for LED Strip Light https://a.co/d/3SaqllP)
One for the mount and another for the camera.
Been using them for years without issue.

Jim
Christian Großmann avatar
I got into some trouble the moment I put some proper heat straps on my equipment. Some of them are very power hungry and there was a voltage drop I didn't realize. I usually use DIY switches for my dew heaters and some other stuff on my rigs. They handle the voltage drop, as the AC-adapters reached their limits, quite well. The efficiency is another topic at that point, but at least everything seems to work somehow. But I bought one proper Pegasus Astro PowerBox to control some of my stuff. This device monitors the voltage and switches everything off, if the voltage drop is too high. It took a while to find the reason, why some of my equipment disconnected in some situations. I'm not sure, but I may have a 5A AC supply for the rig, too (can't check that fast). If the power cable to your equipment is quite thin, you already have a voltage drop you may care about. If the power supply reached its limit, it may become an issue. You can't get more energy out of these devices than they are rated for. So some parameters must change at some point.So the capacity of the supply you need depends on your equipment.

In the beginning, all worked fine for me. But as soon as I upgraded some of the things I had on my rig (or didn't have), I run into trouble. So I suggest to get some more capacity than you need. 

While reading my own letter, I sound quite a bit nerdy. Maybe I am smile. But it's the experience I went through. I tried to save money and at the end, I bought everything twice. Just how life goes… At least AC power supplies (even battery powered ones) are cheap compared to other things on a proper AP rig. So maybe that's not the end of the world.

CS

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Timothy Prospero avatar
I recently got a Sky-Watcher EQM-35 and I realized this thing eats a lot of electrons. 

Now I need a proper power supply and I was wondering what you guys would recommend and what you use for yourselves.

 Dear, if you have access to a 110/220V power supply, there are many stabilized unit options available. A 13.8V unit with at least 10A is recommended. I use this one: https://www.astroshop.eu/power-supplies/10-micron-stationary-stabilized-power-supply-for-gm-2000-and-gm-3000/p,25306However, you can find similar model not branded as "10 Micron" for around 120€ in general electronics stores. It operates from an 110/220 V AC input, with an output of 11 to 14 VDC (u can adjust it) with 10.5 Amps, making it suitable for most amateur setups.The only downside of this model is the cooling fan which occasionally activates, and it is a bit noisy, but it's a minor issue.If you don't have a 110/220V AC supply, there are many other solutions at different price points. When I'm in remote locations, I use a LiFePO4 battery. I have two models: one 30Ah (for smaller setups) and a 50Ah for my larger configurations.With both solutions, I can last two nights on the battery, and both are lightweight being LiFePO4. The 30Ah weighs around 3.5Kg and the 50Ah around 5.5Kg. They're a bit pricier compared to other battery types, but the extra cost is worth it.(very light)Of course, you'll need the appropriate charger for them.Overall, they're much more affordable than other solutions.

For both situations, whether remote or at home or in an observatory, there are many other solutions available: ready-made, DIY, and semi-DIY. It's up to you to decide how much you want to spend in and if you're comfortable with cables, plugs, connectors, soldering,  nothing difficult BTW...


cheers and CS
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Wesley Robert Donnelly avatar
Joe Linington:
Patrick Graham:
If I have access to an AC power outlet, I run everything thru a power strip using the supplied power adaptor the individual components come with.   If out in a remote dark sky spot,  I use a combination of an Ego battery for my Paramount and a Jackery 1000 for my laptop and the other imaging components.  My ZWO AM5 runs on a Goal Zero 500.  I find I usually poop out before any of the batteries do.  Hope this helps, too.

Clear skies,

Patrick

None of my 3 Sky Watcher mounts came with a power supply. The available Sky Watcher power supply is nothing special but costs 3-4x what a nearly identical one from Amazon does.

@Joe Linington  Joe this is one aspect of our hobby that regularly gets me angry. The hobby is eye wateringly expensive as it is, then the telescope retailers charge us 3-4 times the cost for something as basic and routine as a power adaptor!??  Even a small piece of machined metal, like a T-Adaptor, cost wayyy more than it costs to manufacture!? I know this because a member of my family used to run a business selling similar products and she got them for say $1 a piece, and would then sell them for $2 a piece. But these major 'scope retailers are charging us much much more! We're being robbed!
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Wesley Robert Donnelly:
The hobby is eye wateringly expensive as it is, then the telescope retailers charge us 3-4 times the cost for something as basic and routine as a power adaptor!??  Even a small piece of machined metal, like a T-Adaptor, cost wayyy more than it costs to manufacture!? I know this because a member of my family used to run a business selling similar products and she got them for say $1 a piece, and would then sell them for $2 a piece. But these major 'scope retailers are charging us much much more! We're being robbed!


I wouldn't say that we are being robbed, just basic capitalism. These manufacturers are charging you more because:
  • Quite possibly they have to due to the scale of manufacture being smaller than, say, personal computers or laptops, hence their costs are higher. They could be buying these from someone else, rebranding them, and reselling them, which adds cost.
  • They need the margins to stay in business. We really don't know what their overall cost structures are.


A good business will never have  cost+ model, they will sell something at what the market will pay for it.

As a consumer, at least as it comes to these items, we have a choice to buy something like a power supply from somewhere else.

While yes, this hobby is expensive, it is a hobby of choice. None of us depend on it to make a living, whereas the manufacturers do. And competition has made it a lot cheaper and more accessible than it used to be.
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Joe Linington avatar
While I agree that it is silly that putting a sticker on a bulk 5a power supply triples it’s price, I am still amazed that the EQ6R is significantly cheaper than the smaller and much lighter CEM40 or AM5. I’m sure I could get half my money back just in steel weight at the recyclers. That piece of pig iron makes my boat anchor look like a joke.
Francesco Cuccio avatar
My approach to PSU is this:

I want my ENTIRE rig (mount, Intel NUC mini PC, USB HUB, dew heater... everything) to be powered by ONE single cable at DC12V. This way I can be flexible and can use a 12V battery OR an AC power adapter. So I built a power distributor with a single input.

Usually howeber I'm using AC at home. So I built a PSU using a Meanwell 12v 12.5A PSU enclosed in a box. One 12V goes to a Jack, the other feeds a USB+PD which can be handy for laptop / phone.

I attach some images, with the final image not reflecting the cable management I have implemented since...

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