Trying to make a decision on selling my WO FLT91 for a WilliamOptics FLT120

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Joe Matthews avatar
I currently own a William Optics FLT 91 and am considering selling it to highpoint scientific in order to purchase a William Optics FLT 120.  I am wondering if the change in aperture and focal length is worth it.  I am not into SCT’s mostly due to weight and ease of setup, no need to collimate etc, so what I am looking for is a one size fits all refractor, maybe a little planetary imaging, but mostly DSO Objects like Star clusters, possibly some double stars and of course Planetary Nebula and Emission Nebula.   The mount I currently use is the ZWO AM5. The AM5 can handle the William Optics FLT 120.   The FLT 120 is less expensive than the FLT132, which is why I am looking considering the FLT120 but if the FLT 132 would be a better by I am open to opinions as well.  Any help making my decision is greatly appreciated.

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Joe Matthews
Paul Macklin avatar
I moved from briefly using a FLT91 to an AT115EDT (f/7), reduced to f/5.6 and a focal length of about 644mm via plate solve. This was actually bigger than I initially wanted, but now I'm super happy with that choice. 

With my asi2600mc pro, this gives me 1.2"/pixel and a good field of view. It's been great all around. I do see more detail compared to my 91mm, so I think the jump to 120mm might be even a little nicer, and that 115-120 range is good. Even reduced, you'll get some nice detail with that extra aperture. 

(Oh, and do consider the Astro-Tech triplets (EDT). They're at a great price vs quality point. I do see an AT130EDT in stock for $1900, and a dedicated reducer for $200 … )
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Joe Matthews avatar
Thank you paul for your help.
Eduardo Suárez avatar
Hey Joe, let me know what you decide in the end and especially if you move to the FLT120.  Funny enough I was doing some investigations today on the same topic. :-)  I also looked at the Askar 107PHQ and 130PHQ as alternatives as these have a petzval design.  

Not sure if you’ve used this tool before http://astronomy.tools/calculators/field_of_view/, it’s great to give you an idea of FOV with different scopes, cameras and reducers.  I’ve been playing with it today to give me an idea of fov with different configurations.
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Paul Macklin avatar
That's a great tip. I also sometimes mock them up in Stellarium and test on different targets of interest. 

(and if you're open to mosaics, it makes the FOV issue a lot less critical).
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Eduardo Suárez avatar
P.S. re: FLT132 I have discarded it because the published imaging circle is only 36mm vs the Askar 130PHQ at 60mm.  The FLT132 imaging circle is not large enough if you want to go for a 6200MM in the future (the sensor’s diagonal is over 40mm) or other full frame cameras. Just something to keep in mind.
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Joe Matthews avatar
hi eduardo and Paul thank you.  Eduardo, I agree about the FLT 132, decided it’s out of the running, the FLT 120 is still in the running.  However, I have also been considering the Askar 107phq, cost and weight seems to be about right.   But to future proof I have been looking at the  askar 130phq and even the ZWO 130 ( I think it also an askar design) .  the cost is about the same but at 23 lbs a little heavier than I would want.   I am pretty sure my AM5 can handle the weight of both the 130’s but portability is also a factor.  just really a tough decision
Eduardo Suárez avatar
Just one more to consider.  I’ve also been looking at the Explore Scientific 127ED triplet carbon fibre.  As it’s carbon fibre, it’s much lighter than the Askar 130.  Perhaps a good compromise. 

https://explorescientificusa.com/products/ed127-fcd100-air-spaced-triplet-apo-refractor-telescope-carbon-fiber
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Paul Macklin avatar
I've heard good things about that ES! I'm intrigued on the Petzval scopes – please do keep posting with your experiences! (A lovely thought to avoid needing a separate flattener/reducer and deal with every extra perturbation to tilt and backfocus …)
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Joe Matthews avatar
Will do PAUL
Joe Matthews avatar
Thank you Eduardo, i’ll check it out
Eduardo Suárez avatar
Hey Joe, I hope you are well.

I'm currently actively looking too and have reconsidered the WO FLT132.  The concern I had with the imaging circle being only 36mm seems fine now; their website shows that with the recommended flattener/reducers (68III, 7a, 8) the imaging circle reaches 45mm.   The weight is also reported as 9Kg (close to 10Kg with the flattener), so not as heavy as the Askar 130PHQ/ZWO FF130 at 12.5Kg.  

I'd be interested to see what conclusion you reached.  Did you get a larger refractor in the end?

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Joe Matthews avatar
Hi Eduardo,

I haven’t purchased a new refractor, I still want the FLT 132, but the cost is a bit much for my wife to agree to, at this time.  I have tried to sell my Celestron AVX Mount along with my ZenithStar 61ii and my FLT 91,  to help defray some of the cost for the FLT 132, but no takers, not even High Point Scientific.  There was a cloudy nights post for a slightly used FLT 120 for $2600, but decided to wait until I can come up with the money for the FLT 132.  If I have to settle, it will be for the William Optics FLT120 only because of the lower cost.

Best regards
Joe
Todd Charlson avatar
Hi Joe,

What are you asking for the FLT 91?  I been considering adding it for its FOV. Currently , I'm using the FLT 132 FT scope with the flattener/reducers (68III, 7a, 8). It's hard right now to justify spending 2k for a new one.

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Joe Matthews avatar
Hi Todd, I know what you mean, I have had to put my plans on hold for the FLT 132, so I am holding onto the FLT 91 for now.

CS
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Todd Charlson:
Hi Joe,

What are you asking for the FLT 91?  I been considering adding it for its FOV. Currently , I'm using the FLT 132 FT scope with the flattener/reducers (68III, 7a, 8). It's hard right now to justify spending 2k for a new one.

CS
Todd

I have a FLT91 (plus both flatteners and a good Thousand Oaks full aperture solar filter) packaged and I'd be delighted to cut a deal. Please DM if interested.
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Hi Joe

I have the FLT91 and 120 scopes and use them both. The light gathering increase and resolution are quite noticeable with the 120. I haven’t tried the 120 on my AM5N yet and use it on an EQ6-R-Pro which is more stable for such a beefy scope. I use the WO 68III flattener on both scopes at the native focal length. The 91 works well for wider field shots and is easier to set up and less sensitive to the wind. I have the 6AIII reducer for it and it works reasonably well. The 120 needs a calm night or you will lose frames unless you have an observatory. The focusers are similar, a little wobbly when extended out more than 30mm but don’t cause any problems. I have paired the 120 with a 533 camera and mainly image the smaller targets with it.

John

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I have the 132FLT and a GT81markIV. I use the .8x reducer/flattener on the 81. I use the flattener on the 132. I am very happy with the image circle on the 2600’s used on both of the OTA’s. Stars are good all the way to the corners. I run multiple scopes most evenings, but on nights I run only one, it is the 132FLT. Plate Solves out at 914mm with an image scale approximately .848as/px on the 533/2600. It is the Swiss army knife of FL’s for most targets the OP listed… I don’t use the stain-wave mountings so I can’t comment on the usability with your mounting. I have imaged with it on an EQ6r-Pro with some succuss. It works great on my CEM70 or MyT for imaging. Sometimes it is just easier to ask for forgiveness instead of permission. This last bit of advise is from an old guy who knows telescopes much better than women…

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Jerry Gerber avatar
I've discovered there's no 'one size fits all' when it comes to focal length.

The difference between 91 and 120 FL isn't much.

If your camera's resolution is high enough you can crop to get a closer field of view though it's not the same as having more aperture.
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I have been looking at the FLT120 and FLT132 for this coming galaxy season, but my concern is that I will purchase one, and the next month they will come out with a WIFD design for it like they did with the Zenithstar and Grand Turismo 81! Maybe an Ultra-Cat version to compete with the Askar PHQ107. I have an Ultra-Cat 108 that I swap a Poseidon-M Pro and a Uranus-M Pro on (depending on target) which I am very happy with, but a little more reach would be nice for galaxies.

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Astro Jeep · Nov 30, 2025, 02:55 AM

I have been looking at the FLT120 and FLT132 for this coming galaxy season, but my concern is that I will purchase one, and the next month they will come out with a WIFD design for it like they did with the Zenithstar and Grand Turismo 81! Maybe an Ultra-Cat version to compete with the Askar PHQ107. I have an Ultra-Cat 108 that I swap a Poseidon-M Pro and a Uranus-M Pro on (depending on target) which I am very happy with, but a little more reach would be nice for galaxies.

There will always be that concern. Been “burned” a few times. Or was I?

I had a ZWO EAF that was bad, it wouldn’t auto focus (Its sole intent). While ping-ponging with ZWO Service, I replaced it with a Pegasus Astro Focus Cube2. Been wonderful to me.

1 week after I got my cube2 it was discontinued and the cube3 replaced it. I felt burned. Then I realized the Cube3 gets its power via the USB. The Cube2 has a separate 12 VDC input and a data (control) port.

So, the Cube2 does more of what I wanted using my 12 VDC daisy chain for driving. And not loading down the USB Data system sucking power through it. So, I consider the Cube2 more of a lucky break for me.

I jumped from my beginning 80mm triplet refractor to my AT130mm EDT. One big jump in aperture. Much happier with the 130mm. Bigger portions on my display of why I’m there for in the first place. 😊

I was disappointed when I got the 0.8 FF/FR and discovered it dropped me back to 728FL from 910FL. I did not expect that but have round dots (stars) out to the corners.

I’ve known a lot of disappointments since getting into Astrophotography, but I persist at it. (13+ years now.)

Maybe I’m a glutton for punishment? 🤣

Peter Robertson avatar

I am the happy owner new owner of a FLT 120. before this I was only using camera lenses on a star tracker. It is fairly heavy but as others says works well on my EQ6-R, but not on a windy night. I found it incredibly easy to focus. FOV is 624 mm with the FLAT7A, which frames the Pleiades or andromeda nicely on a full frame sensor, and 780mm with the Flat68III , which would frame Orion nebula nicely, and of course much tighter on a smaller sensor. I found it to be very sharp, very sold and a nice quality feel for everything. I doubt I’d ever want anything bigger - its easy to handle but anything bigger would not be. The huge objective lens is beautiful.

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Peter Robertson · Dec 2, 2025, 07:28 AM

I am the happy owner new owner of a FLT 120. before this I was only using camera lenses on a star tracker. It is fairly heavy but as others says works well on my EQ6-R, but not on a windy night. I found it incredibly easy to focus. FOV is 624 mm with the FLAT7A, which frames the Pleiades or andromeda nicely on a full frame sensor, and 780mm with the Flat68III , which would frame Orion nebula nicely, and of course much tighter on a smaller sensor. I found it to be very sharp, very sold and a nice quality feel for everything. I doubt I’d ever want anything bigger - its easy to handle but anything bigger would not be. The huge objective lens is beautiful.

Hi Peter,

You might try adding weight to your EQ6-R. What I did with my AVX when I was struggling with it was to rig a block and tackle (very small set) under it from the spreader. I used a 5-gallon bucket and filled it with water as a weight to stabilize that mount.

My present equipment weighs in at ~150 pounds and does not need additional weight.

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I would hope that after almost two and a half years, the OP has decided on what scope he wants to use.
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Bob Lockwood · Dec 3, 2025, 05:09 PM

I would hope that after almost two and a half years, the OP has decided on what scope he wants to use.

So would I Bob. But even a necro post deserves answers because it is a renewed interest. I don’t usually jump into a necro post.