I'm not sure this went as well as I could have hoped

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Piers Palmer avatar
I shot the Iris Nebula last night with my 8" Newt.  I took flats this morning using my Lacerta Flat Panel and processed using WBPP in Pixinsight.

The resulting image is horrid. 

Is this because it was midummer's day and the darkest it got was 26 mins of astronomical twilight? Is it because I forgot my normal light-leak defence system (a shower cap over the end and a cardboard tube around the focuser). Is it a combination of the two?



Here's flat - looks ok to me?

Tim Hawkes avatar
In the past I've had problems very similar to this where it looks as though the flat is wrong when it actually turned out to be a problem with a subtle mis-match of the dark. 

I was using a ZWO ASI 294 MC camera and a master dark that matched the light in every parameter except the image brightness setting .  As I recall the lights were set to 15 and the  dark to 10 or something.  On other makes of camera the same control is referred to as 'offset'.

Using a master dark with matching offset (brightness) comnpletely solved the problem.  

Tim
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Piers Palmer avatar
Thanks Tim - I think I have a lot to learn! 

I took a bunch of dark frames back in the spring; 30", 60", 120" etc, at the same gain that I use and the same cooling (gain 100, -10ºC) with my ASI2600MC Pro.  I took 20 at each setting. Does that relate to your points? I'm not sure what you mean by matching the offset...I'm a bit of a thicko when it comes to this sort of stuff. 

I did shoot this the night before using my 81mm refractor, and the same dark frames. 


Refractors really are much easier!
andrea tasselli avatar
The flat is shifted w.r.t. the mirror exit pupil. I think that's the main issue. I'd suggest you re-shoot the flats and make sure light leaks are taken care for.
Piers Palmer avatar
Do you mean I need to recenter the secondary? The flats were shot immediately after the lights so I was assuming everything would line up. 

it’s clear again tonight so I’ll have another go!
andrea tasselli avatar
Piers Palmer:
Do you mean I need to recenter the secondary? The flats were shot immediately after the lights so I was assuming everything would line up. 

it’s clear again tonight so I’ll have another go!

Either the mirror has shifted or the camera has between the time you took the flats and the time you imaged the Iris. The thing is still salvageable by shifting and padding the flat.
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Piers Palmer avatar
Brilliant. Thank you! Does that explain the 3-d doughnut things?
andrea tasselli avatar
Yep.
Tim Hawkes avatar
Piers Palmer:
took a bunch of dark frames back in the spring; 30", 60", 120" etc, at the same gain that I use and the same cooling (gain 100, -10ºC) with my ASI2600MC Pro.  I took 20 at each setting. Does that relate to your points? I'm not sure what you mean by matching the offset...I'm a bit of a thicko when it comes to this sort of stuff.


Hi Piers.  You have matched most things but not everything I think.  So no it doesn't..

In the ZWO camera image control menu there is also a setting called 'brightness' .  I normally have it set at 10 for example on my ZWO ASI 1294MC -- some folk habitually set at 4.   My point is only that the crucial importance of this control sometimes get missed.  It is just as important to have this set exactly the same as the rest of the parameters -- a difference of 1 even makes a telling difference--  between darks and lights.  When it is wrong the effect is very much as you have seen which is why I suspect that it might be the problem.

So you just need to check what the brightness  value was set at (programs like Sharpcap stores a  text file that saves this information whenever master darks and autostacks of lights are saved)

Until you have checked this I would not rush to the conclusion that it is anything to do with the flats.  Fixing things would then simply entail making another dark at a brightnes ssetting that matches the lights.


PS some discussion here about offset and other settings for your camera,  May be useful even if it turns out to be unrelated to your current issue.  Maybe ZWO do use the term offset rather than brightness for the 2600  ?

https://www.astrobin.com/forum/c/equipment-forums/zwo-asi2600mc-pro/parameters-for-the-asi2600mc-pro/#
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