L-Enhance for Galaxy Enhancement?

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Phil Creed avatar
I took a little over 3 hours of OSC data on M81 and M82 using an ASI 533MC-Pro with just a UV/IR cut filter under a Bortle 6 sky.  Here's what I've got so far:

https://www.astrobin.com/a3tu2v/

Question -- if I take an extra 1-2 hours using just the L-Enhance filter, is it more likely to embellish the H-alpha regions at the cost of some color balance, or provide a marginal H-alpha enhancement and totally wreck the color balance?

Put another way, if I want those H-alpha regions to "pop" (particularly the starburst section of M82), what's the best course of action with a OSC camera?

Clear Skies,
Phil
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Dale Penkala avatar
Phil Creed:
I took a little over 3 hours of OSC data on M81 and M82 using an ASI 533MC-Pro with just a UV/IR cut filter under a Bortle 6 sky.  Here's what I've got so far:

https://www.astrobin.com/a3tu2v/

Question -- if I take an extra 1-2 hours using just the L-Enhance filter, is it more likely to embellish the H-alpha regions at the cost of some color balance, or provide a marginal H-alpha enhancement and totally wreck the color balance?

Put another way, if I want those H-alpha regions to "pop" (particularly the starburst section of M82), what's the best course of action with a OSC camera?

Clear Skies,
Phil

Hello Phil,
The way that I would approach this is I’d have shot most of the data with a BB filter or even a UV/IR Cut filter process that data then I’d process the data you have with the L-Enhance as it h as the Ha data and extract the Ha channel and then add it back to a RGB color image of the object. At least thats how I would approach it. Others may offer another option.

Nice image BTW!

Dale
Elmiko avatar
Hi Phil, 
I've used Dale's method with good results. 
Another way is to extract the stars from the BB stack and L-eNhance stack..after you star aligned them of course. 
Stretch the L-eNhance data to just reveal the ha regions of the Galaxies. Then add both starless images with pixelmath.  Add the rgb stars back.
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jewzaam avatar
If you have PixInsight there is NBRGBCombination and EmissionLineIntegration scripts.
I've been thinking about other ways to use H-alpha.  I agree with the L-enhance you'd take the R channel as H-alpha.  If you removed stars and created a mask from it you could use it to boost red color in the RGB stack.  But I wouldn't integrate the UV/IR cut data directly with the L-enhance data.
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andrea tasselli avatar
You'll be wasting your time. The Ha signal in both is just too faint for just a couple of hours and the passband too wide. You'll need 6nm wide pass-band or less to make it work and then 2 hours aren't long enough.

I know because I've already tried.
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Jeff Reitzel avatar
I'm still working on this one as I get  time so I can bring up background levels quite a bit to show the IFN that is there. This is similar to what you are doing. It is 14hrs through a UV/IR filter and 6hrs through the L-Ultimate filter using a SVX127D scope and QHY410C cam. I simply processed both the narrow band and UV/IR images completely but aligned to the same reference image. Then masked the galaxies so I could use pixel math to blend the images together to taste only for the galaxies. Each of the three galaxies has a different blend. I personally did not like the results any of the other popular methods were giving me but that's all personal taste. It's an idea if this is something like you are looking for.  An accurate and highly blurred mask is critical for this to work. The "Game" script for Pixinsight by Herbert Walter comes in very handy for me for things like this.
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Jeff
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Jerry Gerber avatar
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Steven Rosen avatar
If you use PixInSight, I suggest splitting the RGB  data into individual channels via RGB extract. First process the RGB and L-enhance data to a non-linear state. Make sure to color balance the RGB before the strech.   Then remove the stars. Save the RGB stars so you can put them  back later.  Then extract the RGB channels. Use the L-enhance data as your Ha and combine it with the Red channel. Several ways to do this.  NBRGB combine or watch one of many excellent videos- Shawn/Visible Dark, Adam Block, High Point Scientific, PaulyAstroman,  Bill Blanshan, etc.  Recombine the new Red/Ha with G and B. Replace stars and finishing touches.  I just posted my HaRGB of M81, M82 using this approach. Check it out.
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Phil Creed avatar
Thanks for all the feedback.  If I just took a few hours of L-Enhance data and stacked it all together with the broadband data in one go, am I correct in assuming the result will be doubleplusungood?

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Phil
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Elmiko avatar
Just try it. I've also done that too. Results were actually pretty good.
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Phil Creed:
Thanks for all the feedback.  If I just took a few hours of L-Enhance data and stacked it all together with the broadband data in one go, am I correct in assuming the result will be doubleplusungood?

Clear Skies,
Phil

Hi Phil,

That's exactly what I did with my latest image. I took the majority with a 533MC-Pro and L-Pro filter, and some extra detail with the L-Extreme filter. There is no doubt a better way to combine these rather than stacking everything all at once but I was being impatient!

You do need a lot of data to really pull out the Ha details - I only had 3 hours which made some slight improvement but not that much. Ideally I would have liked to have the same integration time on the Ha as I did on the bradband.

CS,
Kieran



Bodes Galaxy & The Cigar Galaxy (M81 & M82)
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Rick Veregin avatar
Hi Phil
If you have similar integration to your RGB, the L-eNhance will be worth it. I would use all the data though, color balance should not be too much of a problem. You could process each set separately then add them like in PS or GIMP, this allows you to color adjust each separately. You could probably even add them together in a single stack, though I have not tried that.

I imaged M82 at f6.3 in Bortle 8 , using L-eNhance ONLY on M82, there is lots of signal on all channels. And I did get a decent signal after 2.5 hours.

Below 2.5 hours stack, simple stretch and color saturation only in DSS, no noise reduction or color adjustments:



Final full processed image 32 hours L-eNhance only:

The "Exploding" Cigar Galaxy in HOO


Rick
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