Barlow for lunar photography?

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Oscar avatar
Do I need a barlow? It seems too close to the moon already. I use an F/5 reflector.

Light blue = 1600mm (1000mm 1.6x crop from FF) No barlow
Green = 1.6x
Yellow = 2x

CVZ_Astrophotography avatar
You don't really need it, but it is possible to get a more close up image of the moon with a barlow. And there is also the possibiliy to make mosaic images, those have a bit more surface detail. I've used barlows with my asi224mc and 150/750 telescope, which resulted in 9 par mosaics.
Eddie Bagwell avatar
I would suggest a 3x for your FOV that would give you multiple close-up images of different regions and bring in more surface detail. You could always take it off for a full disc shot.  -Eddie
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andrea tasselli avatar
Light blue = 1600mm (1000mm 1.6x crop from FF) No barlow

Note sure if I read it correctly but your focal length has got nothing to do with the FOV crop factor of an APS-C camera.
Oscar avatar
andrea tasselli:
Light blue = 1600mm (1000mm 1.6x crop from FF) No barlow

Note sure if I read it correctly but your focal length has got nothing to do with the FOV crop factor of an APS-C camera.

I know, but I thought 1000mm cropped to APS-C will look  like 1600mm with Full-Frame?
andrea tasselli avatar
I know, but I thought 1000mm cropped to APS-C will look like 1600mm with Full-Frame?


Maybe the FOV might look the same but the image scale sure isn't.
Oscar avatar
Ok, what goes between my M48 T-ring and the 2" Barlow? A 2" Nosepiece with m48 threads?
D. Jung avatar
Ok, what goes between my M48 T-ring and the 2" Barlow? A 2" Nosepiece with m48 threads?

Sounds like the start if a joke.
A nosepiece and an m48 thread go to a bar(low).... 
Oscar avatar
It's a mystery to me why they called it a nosepiece (why nose?). But it seems that that's what I need, and I think it's the most essential thing I need.  https://agenaastro.com/parts-accessories/adapters/nosepieces/shopby/2_nosepiece.html
andrea tasselli avatar
It's a mystery to me why they called it a nosepiece (why nose?). But it seems that that's what I need, and I think it's the most essential thing I need.  https://agenaastro.com/parts-accessories/adapters/nosepieces/shopby/2_nosepiece.html

Not sure I follow you here. You want a 2" nosepiece for doing what, exactly? If it is to mount the camera on the scope, yes any of those will do. If it is for the barlow, that should come with its own nosepiece. Incidentally, your best bet is a coma-correcting one if you are using an APS-C sized sensor.
Oscar avatar
andrea tasselli:
Not sure I follow you here. You want a 2" nosepiece for doing what, exactly? If it is to mount the camera on the scope, yes any of those will do. If it is for the barlow, that should come with its own nosepiece.

Yes, I want to use a nosepiece for connecting the camera to the focuser itself or the Barlow.
Incidentally, your best bet is a coma-correcting one if you are using an APS-C sized sensor.


I will use APS-C, so where can I find a coma correcting barlow?
andrea tasselli avatar
andrea tasselli:
Not sure I follow you here. You want a 2" nosepiece for doing what, exactly? If it is to mount the camera on the scope, yes any of those will do. If it is for the barlow, that should come with its own nosepiece.

Yes, I want to use a nosepiece for connecting the camera to the focuser itself or the Barlow.
Incidentally, your best bet is a coma-correcting one if you are using an APS-C sized sensor.


I will use APS-C, so where can I find a coma correcting barlow?

You need one with M48 thread rather than one with 2" clamp to attach the camera to the scope but most likely you'd need a coma corrector in between, even at f/5.

As for the coma correcting barlow lens, one possibility is this:
APM 1.25" 2.7x Coma-Correcting ED Barlow # APM-Komakorr-Barlow (agenaastro.com)
Or this, if your pockets are deep enough:
APM Telescopes. APM 2 inch coma-correcting telecentric 1.5x Barlow (apm-telescopes.net)
Oscar avatar
andrea tasselli:
You need one with M48 thread rather than one with 2" clamp to attach the camera to the scope but most likely you'd need a coma corrector in between, even at f/5.

As for the coma correcting barlow lens, one possibility is this:
APM 1.25" 2.7x Coma-Correcting ED Barlow # APM-Komakorr-Barlow (agenaastro.com)
Or this, if your pockets are deep enough:
APM Telescopes. APM 2 inch coma-correcting telecentric 1.5x Barlow (apm-telescopes.net)

 Okay. Will it work if I get a CC and Barlow separately and put them together?
andrea tasselli avatar
Okay. Will it work if I get a CC and Barlow separately and put them together?


Most likely no. Maybe with a Paracorr type II and a very short barlow but it is a very outside chance. And I don't know of any 2" "shorty" barlow. Never mind that the cost would probably exceed the value of the scope...
Bob Lockwood avatar
Would this work for you. 2" Barlow

https://www.astro-physics.com/baradv
Oscar avatar
Would this work for you. 2" Barlow

https://www.astro-physics.com/baradv

I believe it's only for refractors, but thank you anyway.
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Oscar avatar
andrea tasselli:
Okay. Will it work if I get a CC and Barlow separately and put them together?


Most likely no. Maybe with a Paracorr type II and a very short barlow but it is a very outside chance. And I don't know of any 2" "shorty" barlow. Never mind that the cost would probably exceed the value of the scope...

Ok, I'll use a 2x Barlow and take pictures of halves (or quarters depending on the amount of coma or vignetting) of the Moon and just merge them in a panorama in PS. When I move to astronomy cameras I'll take more segments of the Moon and merge them together.

I also found some examples of Astrophotos taken with my scope herehere also, but with an astronomy camera.


Thanks.
Oscar avatar
Oh, one more question: you were saying that I would need m48 threads rather than a 2" clamp on the Barlow, can you clarify what you meant? I don't want my camera to fall off the focuser of course.
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andrea tasselli avatar
Oh, one more question: you were saying that I would need m48 threads rather than a 2" clamp on the Barlow, can you clarify what you meant? I don't want my camera to fall off the focuser of course.

If you plan to attach the camera directly to the barlow than a 2" nosepiece with the t-thread adaptor will do. If it is to attach the camera to a coma corrector than a t-thread adaptor will do.
Oscar avatar
Alright, thanks a lot.