ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY WITH ONLY 1 HOUR EXPOSURE TIME?! IS IT POSSIBLE? CHALLENGE ACCEPTED?

Ole myrvollTaras_MJerry GerberLorenzo Siciliano
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ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY WITH ONLY 1 HOUR EXPOSURE TIME?! IS IT POSSIBLE? CHALLENGE ACCEPTED?After my trip to a cabin far out in the Norwegian wilderness, with clouds rolling in as the night got darker and stars should have filled my telescope and eyes I decided to see how little exposure time that is need to create an image I was happy with!WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH ONLY 1 HOUR OF EXPOSURE TIME IN TOTAL ON A SINGLE OBJECT??

Minimum 100Euro gift card for the winner, and competition goes until 31.january 2023!

Link to challenge!
https://youtu.be/OZ9Lq3X0TK8
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Steve Spring avatar
H Ole,

I'd be happy to grab an hours data with the weather here lately

Here's an image I took on a night very similar to yours last year, obviuosly the SNR is weak.  I wouldn't say I'm too happy doing it, and i am lucky enough to have a Hyperstar, but like you  I was suprised at what could be gathered in 1hr and posted i for that reason

Well 1hr and 4min actually so i guess I'm disqualified

https://www.astrobin.com/dojcu8/
Ole myrvoll avatar
Great photo for that amount of time indeed!
The hyperstar will of course help, but that was pretty cool to see! smile

Yes, you should either take another image, or just integrate and edit with 60minutes in total.

Then send it to my email, that you get from the video I posted!

All the best!
andrea tasselli avatar
Plenty to chose from…
fourier2000 avatar
I have a few around that time, here’s a personal favourite 

https://www.astrobin.com/ty5abe/?nc=&nce=
Ole myrvoll avatar
Great photo for that amount of time indeed!

Yes, you should either take another image, or just integrate and edit with 60minutes in total.

Then send it to my email, that you get from the video I posted!

All the best!
Dark Matters Astrophotography avatar
@Tyrel Smith - You should show your 1 HR Orion here, once you get it finished.
Alan Brunelle avatar
In the world with very fast systems, this is going to be pretty common.  Even still, most who use those systems will want more time, if available.

Here are a few sub 1hr shots I got have posted:



M 42 The Great Orion Nebula in OSC

A whole 20 minutes on this one.  For me, a rare night in winter, and this only fits between a couple big trees, so I have never been back to get more data.  On the other hand, I am not complaining either...  It could be said that high surface brightness is the key for this one.  However, that does not really explain the decent dark clouds I was able to get.  This was very early on in my astrophotography journey, so I might revisit this in reprocessing to see what improvements could be had.



NGC 2237

I was able to go all out on this at 50 minutes.  This is the first thing I ever posted on Astrobin.  I would certainly love to get more data on this.  Also, better current processing by me would certainly, likely improve things here.



IC 405 Flaming Star

28 minutes for this one.  Another very early image in my career doing this stuff, so there is much to be improved with my current processing skills.  This one I got back too more recently with new data.  Its hard to say that nice images cannot be achieved in a short period of time for a good number of objects.  It helps if one is not inclined to pixel peep.

Back to the very fast systems, such as the RASAs, while these may be extreme examples, I honestly find with my 11 inch and a OSC camera, I cannot justify spending much more than 3 hr on any object.  Yes, when reading older literature (not that old!), it is always said that more data means a better, deeper image.  But I believe that after a certain amount of time, the gains become so diminished that it is pointless.  I have limited means to display my work.  This includes printing (usually on metal) and on computer screens of various forms.  With a widefield telescope, I generally frame the work for best viewing scale to meet these requirements.  All have their limits.  And none are like putting an image up on a IMAX screen!  So, given that I live in a location that is mostly cloudy, or otherwise unfavorable most of the year, I do not waste my time using 2, 3 or 4X the exposure times to give me a percent improvement in the image.  I am sure other imaging rigs are more prone to improvements with more exposure time, but for the fast systems, really, sky background ends up being the limiting boundary for any gains if one is trying to meet the limits of detection for deep sky stuff.
Ole myrvoll avatar
Alan Brunelle:
In the world with very fast systems, this is going to be pretty common.  Even still, most who use those systems will want more time, if available.

Here are a few sub 1hr shots I got have posted:



M 42 The Great Orion Nebula in OSC

A whole 20 minutes on this one.  For me, a rare night in winter, and this only fits between a couple big trees, so I have never been back to get more data.  On the other hand, I am not complaining either...  It could be said that high surface brightness is the key for this one.  However, that does not really explain the decent dark clouds I was able to get.  This was very early on in my astrophotography journey, so I might revisit this in reprocessing to see what improvements could be had.



NGC 2237

I was able to go all out on this at 50 minutes.  This is the first thing I ever posted on Astrobin.  I would certainly love to get more data on this.  Also, better current processing by me would certainly, likely improve things here.



IC 405 Flaming Star

28 minutes for this one.  Another very early image in my career doing this stuff, so there is much to be improved with my current processing skills.  This one I got back too more recently with new data.  Its hard to say that nice images cannot be achieved in a short period of time for a good number of objects.  It helps if one is not inclined to pixel peep.

Back to the very fast systems, such as the RASAs, while these may be extreme examples, I honestly find with my 11 inch and a OSC camera, I cannot justify spending much more than 3 hr on any object.  Yes, when reading older literature (not that old!), it is always said that more data means a better, deeper image.  But I believe that after a certain amount of time, the gains become so diminished that it is pointless.  I have limited means to display my work.  This includes printing (usually on metal) and on computer screens of various forms.  With a widefield telescope, I generally frame the work for best viewing scale to meet these requirements.  All have their limits.  And none are like putting an image up on a IMAX screen!  So, given that I live in a location that is mostly cloudy, or otherwise unfavorable most of the year, I do not waste my time using 2, 3 or 4X the exposure times to give me a percent improvement in the image.  I am sure other imaging rigs are more prone to improvements with more exposure time, but for the fast systems, really, sky background ends up being the limiting boundary for any gains if one is trying to meet the limits of detection for deep sky stuff.

Cool, thanks for sharing.
Feel free to email one of those to enter the contest

Clear skies!
Taras_M avatar
Hm, would you define the sky quality too? Scope category? Otherwise it hasnt any reason. IMHO
CS
Ole myrvoll avatar
Hm, would you define the sky quality too? Scope category? Otherwise it hasnt any reason. IMHO
CS

 
Hi Taras

At the moment no, and I understand what you are saying. But I try to keep this as simple as possible at the moment. In later challenges, sure, that would be a good idea. But for this one, all is welcome no matter what you are using!

Clear skies,
Ole
wsg avatar
M45 in 45 minutes, in between clouds. 




M45, 45 minute star test
Michael Kohl avatar
Hi!
What works well is EAA with very short exposure times:

Luminance 35 minutes, RGB 13 minutes = 48 minutes total exposure time!

CS
Micha
Jerry Gerber avatar
Here's my 54 minute (18 180" subs) of M42.  I'll shoot it again to get detail in the center of the nebula and use a narrowband filter, but for my very first attempt at astrophotography I think it's OK.  Taken with Esprit 100, ASI2600MC, L-Pro filter and AM5 mount.  Calibrated, registered and integrated in Pixinsight, processing done in PI (image solver, SPCC, background neutralization, dynamic background extraction, stretching, color correction and saturation), post processing done in ACD Ultimate (cropping, further color and tonal balancing, sharpening, noise reduction).
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Jerry Gerber avatar
And lastly, here's a one hour exposure of M31 (60 60" subs). Taken with Esprit 100, ASI2600MC, L-Pro filter and AM5 mount.  Calibrated, registered and integrated in Pixinsight, processing done in PI (image solver, SPCC, background neutralization, dynamic background extraction, stretching, color correction and saturation), post processing done in ACD Ultimate (cropping, further color and tonal balancing, sharpening, noise reduction).
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Cfreerksen avatar
An hour is not long. Could be fruitful for something bright. I usually try for a minimum of 20 hours now. The extra time make for easier processing and a better result. Did the dim Blue Horsehead in an hour 40. Would love to get more time on it. 
https://www.astrobin.com/cxt97b/B/

Chris
Ali Alhawas avatar
Hi all,

Here is my go with M42 180" one sub, no calibration frames.
Dark sky can give you more..

https://www.astrobin.com/03rqhc/0/

Ole myrvoll avatar
Hi Astrophotographers!

Friendly reminder to send me your contributions to the challenge and be part of the contest of winning a 100Euro gift card smile

Best regards and clear skies,
Bortle8 Astro
Ole myrvoll avatar
Today marks the end of this competition, and if you still haven't submitted your photo it's not too late!
All great images posted here, will not be in the running of a gift card of 100Euro from teleskop-express.de unless they are sent to my email.

My adress is [email]bortle8astro@gmail.com[/email]
With less than 30 submissions so far, I can safely say that the chance of winning this price is actually quite good! smile

If you have any tips for a later challenge, please let me know what to do better or how to manage it.
I also want to thank astrobin for actually letting me post this!

Clear skies, and keep looking up in the night sky!

Ole Myrvoll 
Bortle8 Astro
Die Launische Diva avatar
Challenge  accepted!

1 hour is too much 

Here are 15 minutes of Sh 2-73:



Roman Pearah avatar
I don't really have anything that short except this Comet Leonard image from a while back.
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Ole myrvoll avatar
Roman Pearah:
I don't really have anything that short except this Comet Leonard image from a while back.


Thats a nice image, submit it! Nothing too loose

All the best!
Ole
Ole myrvoll avatar
Ali Alhawas:
Hi all,

Here is my go with M42 180" one sub, no calibration frames.
Dark sky can give you more..

https://www.astrobin.com/03rqhc/0/



@Ali Alhawas  
Did you get to submit it to my email?
Really nice image!

All the best!
Ole myrvoll avatar
Jerry Gerber:
And lastly, here's a one hour exposure of M31 (60 60" subs). Taken with Esprit 100, ASI2600MC, L-Pro filter and AM5 mount.  Calibrated, registered and integrated in Pixinsight, processing done in PI (image solver, SPCC, background neutralization, dynamic background extraction, stretching, color correction and saturation), post processing done in ACD Ultimate (cropping, further color and tonal balancing, sharpening, noise reduction).


@Jerry Gerber 
Awesome image for that amount of time!
Did you get a chance to submit it for the contest?

All the best!
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