Edge 8" Image Train with OAG and ASI2600MC Camera

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Jerry Gerber avatar
Dear Astrophotographers,

I recently bought the Celestron Edge 8 and am waiting for the OAG.  I have no idea what the backfocus should be when I use this scope with the ZWO ASI2600MC camera.   ZWO recommends a backfocus of 55mm, but I am not sure that applies to this telescope.

Does anyone have this combination of equipment that could point me to instructions as to how to set up the backfocus correctly?  I will also be using a broadband or narrowband filter with this image train.  The Edge instructions don't cover any of this.

Thank you very much!
Jerry
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Michael Miller avatar
This video in AstroBlender's Back-Focus 101 series should be helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwlj6VC10yM&list=PLE-H5M8vFOdL7xkde6ReVttN12VoGSdrc&index=9

Mike
Jerry Gerber avatar
Michael Miller:
This video in AstroBlender's Back-Focus 101 series should be helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwlj6VC10yM&list=PLE-H5M8vFOdL7xkde6ReVttN12VoGSdrc&index=9

Mike

Thanks Mike.
Frank Arapovic avatar
As has already been mentioned Astroblender has a whole series of back focus videos and he has just recently released specific EdgeHD 8 ones as well. His videos on his channel answers your questions including filters. He uses a different camera than yours, but the same principles apply.

Check him out https://www.youtube.com/@AstroBlender
Jonny Bravo avatar
The back focus requirement is not based on the camera, but rather the scope/corrector/reducer.

For the 8" EdgeHD, the proper back focus distance is 133.35mm when running natively at f/10 and 105mm when you've got the reducer. The manual shows you how to attach a DSLR. It mentions using a T-ring adapter and a T-ring. Well, the Celestron T-adapter is 78mm and the typical T-ring/DSLR gets you 55mm. Thus, you get 133mm smile. Notice that 55mm number? Looks pretty similar to what ZWO offers in various rings/adapters with their cameras. But again, it's irrelevant to the CAMERA and has everything to do with the scope.

So, since you've also got the OAG, you're going to need to consider that part, along with whatever adapters in getting you to the required 133mm value. The OAG manual shows a very clear diagram of how to setup your imaging train. You just substitute the DSLR/T-ring for your 2600/adapters.

For informational purposes only (since I shoot with a 294MM Pro) here are my two image trains (both with and without the 0.7x reducer). First, without the reducer:

EdgeHD -> T-adapter * -> female m42 adapter -> OAG -> male m42 adapter -> 11.55mm ring -> EFW -> 294MM Pro

With the reducer:

EdgeHD -> SCT adapter -> OAG -> male m42 adapter -> 11.55mm ring -> EFW -> 294MM Pro

The * above is because I use the "long" part of the 8" Edge T-adapter. For the 8" EdgeHD, Celestron's T-adapter is a two-piece affair. Together, it is 78mm as I described in the first paragraph. However, you can unscrew it and you'll end up with the "long" piece being 49.3mm. You do not need to do this. I do it because I switch between imaging native at f/10 and imaging reduced at f/7. With it setup in this fashion, I keep the camera/wheel/OAG exactly the same. In other words, I don't need to mess with the OAG camera spacing when going from f/10 to f/7.
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Jerry Gerber avatar
Thanks Jonny for that information, it's very helpful. As soon as the OAG arrives I'll figure out what adapters I'll need for both f10 and f7 operation. 

Did you get the backfocus numbers from Celestron or did you figure it out through trial and error?
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Jonny Bravo avatar
Jerry Gerber:
Thanks Jonny for that information, it's very helpful. As soon as the OAG arrives I'll figure out what adapters I'll need for both f10 and f7 operation. 

Did you get the backfocus numbers from Celestron or did you figure it out through trial and error?

Directly from Celestron. Their white paper describes the back focus and the manual for the reducer does as well. Here's the link to the 0.7x reducer for the 8" EdgeHD: https://s3.amazonaws.com/celestron-site-support-files/support_files/94242_reducer_inst_sheet.pdf
Jerry Gerber avatar
Thanks everyone. I've got the image train specs all resolved.

Now the question is whether the ASI290 mini guide camera is going to be able to achieve focus with either no adapter or one of the adapters that comes with the OAG.  

Has anyone used the OAG successfully with the ASI290 mini guide camera?
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