Hi, I am thinking about getting an 8 inch imageing Newtonian at f 3.9 I have a qhy 163m and I know the chip sits back further in these than the zwo 1600 mm. My question is what size filter will cover my chip without vignetting, will a 31 mm work or do I need a 36 mm? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Shawn.
Filter size needed to get no vignetting at f4 using a qhy 163
I have a ZWO EFW in front of my 1600 and I use 31mm mounted filters without issue. Slight vignette, but nothing flats don't cure.
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My experience is the same as Tim's: slight vignetting, easily fixed using flats. I used to have a much bigger problem, but it turned out to be the off-axis guider prism from my Orion Thin Off-axis Guider. I rotated the guider 90° and the problem pretty much went away. ASI 1600MM-cool with ZWO EFW with 31 mm unmounted filters (also ZWO) on an 8" f/4 Newtonian astrograph.
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Thank you both for your comments , just worried because the sensor is further back in the qhy camera than the asi, and I've had problems with serious vignetting at f6 with 1.25 inch filters. But I will look into it further. Thank you, Shawn
I use 31mm with my 1600 in an EFW and I've shot with am f/2 lens with the previously mentioned very slight vignetting. Nothing that flats can't handle and nothing that would make me want larger filters
I don't know the backfocus of the camera, it seems to be somewhere between 10 and 18mm, is that correct? added to thet the distance in the filter wheel, probably some additional 4-5mm
At F/4 you would need additional 14/4=3.5mm or even 23/4=5.8mm in addition to the sensor diagonal (at 21.6mm).
So in worst case (27.4mm) that should still reasonably work for unmounted 31mm filters (assuming 2-3mm for their support, around 28mm free aperture).
36mm would be the safer bet.
At F/4 you would need additional 14/4=3.5mm or even 23/4=5.8mm in addition to the sensor diagonal (at 21.6mm).
So in worst case (27.4mm) that should still reasonably work for unmounted 31mm filters (assuming 2-3mm for their support, around 28mm free aperture).
36mm would be the safer bet.
You can also use this tool as a guide: https://astronomy.tools/calculators/ccd_filter_size.
I used it before buying my 31mm filters (instead of 36mm) for my scopes (f4ish and with the ASI1600). My experiences are the same as those noted above.
I used it before buying my 31mm filters (instead of 36mm) for my scopes (f4ish and with the ASI1600). My experiences are the same as those noted above.
One reason why I chose the ZWO over the QHY for the 1600/163 is precisely this: 6.5 mm vs. (I think) 17.5 mm of backspacing. 1.25" filters work fine at f/4 for the 1600, but I don't think it'd work for the 163. I'd call whomever you bought the camera from (Highpoint, OPT Corp., etc.) and ask them. They should be able to tell you exactly what size filters you need.
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I am using 1.25" filter with my QHY163M, i will do more test, but i don't have serious nice results to post anywhere but only Facebook because i am just testing, and i am also working on all options possible so i can have 1.25" used and i fulfill the backfocus of my imaging system with corrector/reducer,…etc.
Already ordered Chroma 1.25" filter and waiting it to arrive to give it a try, i am using ZWO filter wheel just temporarily because it is mainly for planetary imaging with ZWO planetary mono cameras, and i use Canon lens, i like to test and see.
Already ordered Chroma 1.25" filter and waiting it to arrive to give it a try, i am using ZWO filter wheel just temporarily because it is mainly for planetary imaging with ZWO planetary mono cameras, and i use Canon lens, i like to test and see.
Hi everyone I already ordered a new 36 mm filter wheel and lrgb, and narrowband filters , it was time for a step up anyway
Hello everyone,
Im just waiting for my QHY163M and since earlier owner of filterwheel (9 slot) with 1,25 filter.
So the question for distance/vignetting is good for me to high light too.
I think of a thin drop-in filterholder , is there any functional model to recommend ?
Im just waiting for my QHY163M and since earlier owner of filterwheel (9 slot) with 1,25 filter.
So the question for distance/vignetting is good for me to high light too.
I think of a thin drop-in filterholder , is there any functional model to recommend ?
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