Mark Germani avatar
Hi folks:

I'm struggling with a strange issue that has just cropped up after a few years of astrophotography with the same DSLR.

I've been using 360s (6-minute) exposures with my Canon 600D and the L-eXtreme filter @ ISO800. When I load the RAW files in RawDigger, I see minimal underexposed pixels in the red channel (blue and green are always adequately exposed). We're talking 5% or less underexposed.

I did a quick spot-check while imaging the veil nebula a few weeks back, and noticed that the red channel was now 20-30% underexposed. I figured that perhaps it was my first time imaging a target so close to zenith, and perhaps the level of atmosphere/LP had diminished to the point where I should start pushing my exposure lengths. I tried 7, 8, 10, 12 minutes. I managed to get it down to 7-8% underexposed at 10 minutes. 52% moon.

Tonight I'm shooting again, 28% moon, and exposure levels are dropping again! I had 20% underexposed at 10 minutes.

I checked my camera settings, I know I haven't doubled up on filters. What could be happening here? I'm concerned that my camera sensor is rapidly losing sensitivity, but perhaps this is par for the course when imaging closer to zenith, or with better conditions than the horrible hazy weather I've had this past spring? Has this ever happened to anyone before?

After I take flats tonight I'll take the camera off and check the filter to see if it's smudged or darkened. Any input would be appreciated! I've never heard of anyone having to expose for 12+ minutes @ ISO800 in Bortle 8.

CS,
Mark
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Andy Wray avatar
<Deleted>  Sorry, just noticed you are using L-Extreme filter so my response wasn't valid.
Jared Holloway avatar
This seems weird but… I have a Canon EOS Ra, shootfrom Bortle 8 and use both the L-eNhance and L-eXtreme filters. When using the enhance, I usually have to shoot from 240s - 360s with a 275mm f4.5 scope. Same scope, with L-eXtreme its a 600s exposure, and I could probably bump that up.

To the camera, depending on how many images you have taken and how old it is, they technically do have a shelf life, but I'm not sure how the sensor itself would be effected. Have you tried shooting with a lens in the daytime to see if it feels weird?
Mark Germani avatar
Thanks Jared! I figured there might be a chance that the 360s exposures were limited by light pollution and poor conditions, so what you're saying about your f/4.5 scope makes sense. My camera is getting on, but I've heard that the mirror-flip mechanism is what's supposed to go before anything else, and that seems to be working fine.
Jared Holloway:
I have a Canon EOS Ra, shootfrom Bortle 8 and use both the L-eNhance and L-eXtreme filters


Off topic here, but in which situation do you choose to use your L-eNhance over the L-eXtreme?

Thanks again!
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Jared Holloway avatar
Mark Germani:
Off topic here, but in which situation do you choose to use your L-eNhance over the L-eXtreme?

Thanks again!

I just got the L-eXtreme to try and pull more Oiii out of targets that are fainter - example: the Squid in the Flying Bat Nebula. I am having more success there then with the L-eNhance. It also give me more contrast. Unfortunately, since I am not cooling my sensor it also give me more noise .
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Jared Holloway:
Unfortunately, since I am not cooling my sensor it also give me more noise .


This is where I'm really suffering on those 10-12 minute exposures. It's summer here, and while 16-24 C is certainly not "hot" by more southern standards, after 10-12 minutes my subs are showing all sorts of noise. It's horrendous! Time for a dedicated astro-camera.
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Mark Germani:
Jared Holloway:
Unfortunately, since I am not cooling my sensor it also give me more noise .


This is where I'm really suffering on those 10-12 minute exposures. It's summer here, and while 16-24 C is certainly not "hot" by more southern standards, after 10-12 minutes my subs are showing all sorts of noise. It's horrendous! Time for a dedicated astro-camera.

I JUST bought an asi2600mc - thankfully on sale! I am hoping that more exposures, along with drawing out more color, will also help with the noise on my 600s subs. With 300s, I typically don't have too much of an issue (I also get twice as many subs).