Anyone seen anything like this before?

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andrea tasselli avatar
So, here is the (short) story: Yesterday I was using a remote telescope chasing more integration for an image of Sh2-64, right at the edge of the Scutum star-cloud. In hindisght I could have probably tried it from here but not with the same chances of success (or not, turns out the little bugger is rather faint). The exposure sequence was 2 300s integrations in Ha, then R,G and B exposures of 300s each. Note that the actual temporal ordering in remote observatories is normally out of your hands. Rightly so, it turned out that Ha exposures were taken first. So I downloaded them first and had a look to my great surpise I found a weird-looking object (for lack of better words) where there rightly should be none and bright in R as well, as shown in the picture below.



The image above is the calibrated stack of the 2 300s Ha exposures which didn't show movement of the "thing" between the two frames, being fixed relative to the background stars. It did show minor change of intensities between the two exposures but nothing that could be construed as "motion".

Downloading the remaining frames (in the temporal order R, B and G) showed the "thing" much faded in the R and nearly invisible in the G and nothing in the B, or so I thought.

I processed (calibrated and colour balanced to come up with the folloiwng RGB close-up (all images are at 1:1 scale):



That above shows clearly the faded R trace of the "thing, a very faint G shifted toward the bottom and the nearly invisible trace of itself in the B channel in between the two, so that the spatial shift is in temporal order.

Finally this is the HaRGB composite of the 4 channels:



 I'd have to note that the "thing" is very much brighter than the nebula itself (sadly!).

So, the question is really: Does anyone has experienced anything similar and what could be the source of the phenomenon? Sprites? Other upper atmospheric weird phenomena? Note that man-made cause seems unlikely as the observatory in question is far from inhabitated place in the Namibian countryside (there seems no shortage of satellites though!).

Final note: imaging the same field several hours later showed nothing there.
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Stuart Taylor avatar
Very intriguing. I have never witnessed anything of this kind either with my own or remote equipment.
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Carastro avatar
Could it be one of the space crafts up there doing some sort of "dump".

Carole
EricTorrel avatar
Wow, it looks very interesting and cool. I've never seen something like this yet
Christoph Lichtblau avatar
Can it has something to do with the falcon 9 rocket launch?
Andy Wray avatar
Do you have a timestamp on it?  It would help identify any satellites etc.
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andrea tasselli avatar
Here is the sequence's time stamps:

Ha7=20220707-183204
Ha7=20220707-183741
Blue=20220707-184932
Green=20220707-185534
Andy Wray avatar
andrea tasselli:
Here is the sequence's time stamps:

Ha7=20220707-183204
Ha7=20220707-183741
Blue=20220707-184932
Green=20220707-185534

Is that UTC?  FWIW:  there were two launches that day, a Soyuz and a Falcon 9.
andrea tasselli avatar
That's right, time stamps in UTC.
Aygen avatar
Intriguing and very cool. Can’t help but looking forward for further feedbacksmile
kuechlew avatar
What timezone are the timestamps? SpaceX Mission took off at 9:11 ET (=UTC-5), so it doesn't fit in case the time stamps are UTC:
(2) Starlink Mission - YouTube

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Frank Szabo avatar
This is very intriguing. It's a 5 minute long exposure, so if this something that appeared and disappeared,it must have been stationary or moving slower relative to the telescope's sidereal motion.  
Perhaps we are looking at the stretched version of it, so if there would be a way to un-stretch it to its original shape, somehow calculate how much the telescope moved and with photoshop or other editing software  distort the image back to what it must have look like in a few seconds of exposure, then we would get a better version of its shape.
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Brian Puhl avatar
Looks like the falcon 9 launch, the photos from the ground have the same 'look'.  

Edit:  Looking at your timestamps, that could be the rocket that launched from california to be honest.    It probably disappeared after MECO.
Andy Wray avatar
I think you may have captured the death of the Fregat upper stage of the Soyuz rocket as it re-entered the atmosphere and burned up on its way down to an ocean burial.   The Glonass K satellite (Cosmos 2557) that had been launched by it had passed over Namibia an hour earlier.  Speculation I know, but it has 5 spherical fuel tanks (2 for the main engine and 3 for the attitude control thrusters) which may be what you're seeing as it breaks up.
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andrea tasselli avatar
Andy Wray:
I think you may have captured the death of the Fregat upper stage of the Soyuz rocket as it re-entered the atmosphere and burned up on its way down to an ocean burial.   The Glonass K satellite (Cosmos 2557) that had been launched by it had passed over Namibia an hour earlier.  Speculation I know, but it has 5 spherical fuel tanks (2 for the main engine and 3 for the attitude control thrusters) which may be what you're seeing as it breaks up.

That is very interesting Andy. Curious that the re-entry burn-out is so bright in deep red (h-alpha) but not that much in the main optical bands. The relative shifting of the 5 shots might have been due to dispersal in the upper atmosphere, possibly. Yet The phenomenon lasted (at least) 20 min which is quite exceptionally long for a re-entry burn-out.
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