How much does it cost to get into astrophotography properly?

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Andy Wray avatar
It's an expensive hobby, but how much should one budget for?  In the UK, buying new rather than used, I would suggest around £4,000.  I'd welcome others thoughts.

My budget (of actually around £4,200) includes:

Mount:  EQ6 R Pro £1,400
Camera: ASI1600MM Pro with 8xfilter wheel and LRGB SII Ha OIII filters £1,655
Guide camera:  ASI290mm mini £279
Coma corrector:  Skywatcher 0.9X  £149
OTA:  Skywatcher 200 PDS £379
OAG and helical focuser: £173
Autofocuser:  ZWOEAF 5V:  £184

I don't have all of the above (I need to upgrade my mount and I'm waiting on the OAG/helical focuser to be delivered), but what kit would you select for around the £4,000 mark.
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Boyan Stiliyanov avatar
Well we have to define what 'properly' means and I think there is a lot of room for that.
Also imaging nebulae requires (or can require) different setups from imaging galaxies, or planets.
The cheapest I could think of and that I'd be happy (even though I'm still a beginner) is this:

Star Tracker (skywatcher, iOptron, other similar)
DSLR + astro mod
Samyang lens (14mm or 135mm f/2)
and a dark site!!

It might not give you the best Deeeep sky galaxies or planetary nebulae, but most people can
play with this rig and the night sky for years.
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Wim van Berlo avatar
That looks to be an ok setup. I would revise two items:
1. The camera. The ASI1600 has a good reputation, but there are more modern alternatives. Also, look into other manufacturers; Risingcam, Mallincam, to name a few.
2. The coma corrector. Check out reviews to get a feeling for what is out there. Some do a better job than others.

cs,

Wim
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kuechlew avatar
Hi Andy,

initial required budget obviously depends on personal preferences, ambitions, on how you define astrophotography (opening pandora's box ...) and whether you want to keep things simple for starters (which may imply spending money on an initial system you may partly dump later on) or jump right into a future proof but more complicated setup : (1) Astrophotography from $100 to $10,000 - YouTube

As pointed out in another thread there is a point for starting small and easy with just a tracker, a camera and a lens.

Clear skies
Wolfgang
Yogesh S avatar
I got into Astrophotography “properly” after getting a star tracker (still using it). My initial setup only included my mirrorless camera and it’s kit lens. Star Tracker improved the imaging a lot. Lesser images to store and process.

In India, most of the astro specific gear is hard to come by and are very expensive.

This is also an hobby that you would want more, and end up getting GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome).
John avatar
well, no limits i say,im now saving  money for my own james web telescope…smile
SemiPro avatar
I mean, it depends what properly is defined as because it varies. Also, is someone going to be doing planetary or deep space? 

Buying all new gear at the bare minimum to get a basic sky tracker, cooled camera, a decent lens, and guiding will run you up around 3000+ CAD.

If you want presentable results there is no way around the costs. Of course you can buy used and if you already have a DSLR you can make that work.

I think the myth that you have to buy insane amounts of gear is too prevalent. You just need to accept the limitations of your system, know them, and learn how to use what you buy.

Because once you do, you can start banging out pictures like this:
https://www.astrobin.com/6c0xo1/0/

Not bad for a star tracker, DSLR, lens, and basic guiding.
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kuechlew avatar
John:
well, no limits i say,im now saving  money for my own james web telescope...

... or for the ultimate remote observatory: Lunar astronomy: A dual-camera system is headed to the Moon later this year: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)
Brian Boyle avatar
If you have to ask, you can't afford it smile 

Seriously I have had as much fun with a star tracker and a DSLR as I have with my current rig.  Cost differential would be more than 100:1. 

It simply depends how much you want to spend against increasingly diminishing returns, but returns nevertheless.  

It shares many similar characteristics with other similarly privileged pursuits 

How much to get into golf properly?
How much to get into hifi properly?
etc

CS Brian
Marc avatar
Basically, it's en expensive hobby, there is just no denying that. I mean, if I were to calculate the cost per image versus the investment into gear, it's not even funny… smile

How much you will have to put down is pretty hard to say… widefield is cheaper than high magnification galaxy work, etc. I think a pretty standard "entry level" kit to explore the milky way - i.e. once you have moved past the "star tracker and old DSLR" stage - would be:

Skywatcher 80mm ED Refractor (~700€)
Skywatcher HEQ5 or Celestron VX mount ~1200€)
Autoguider (e.g. ASI120 , ~200€) (
Guide scope (32 or 50mm aperture) (~100€)
…and a camera. ASI1600 was mentioned, although there are other options. (500-3000€)
A laptop or ZWO ASIair (if you get a ZWO camera)

The camera is probably the one thing where you can either spend tons of money (Mono CMOS with complete set of filters), or "not much" at all (mirror-less DSLR).

And of course, most of these things can be found on the secondary market, so there are more options to get down the price a bit.
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bobzeq25 avatar
If you're at all serious about learning to take images like the better ones here, you're far better off starting with a good mount ($1400-up) and a small refractor (about $500).  Those prices are not misprints.

The reason is that learning skills in data capture and processing is quite difficult, you'll learn _significantly_ faster/better/cheaper with a setup like that.  It gets out of your way.

As others have noted here, the economical alternative is camera tracker/camera lens/camera.  Great for learning on.

This book is another great tool for learning.  This is far more complex than most beginners think.

https://www.amazon.com/Deep-sky-Imaging-Primer-Second/dp/0999470906

If you just want to have some fun, ignore me.  My advice is aimed at people who want to get serious, whose goal is to take the best images they can.

https://www.astrobin.com/users/bobzeq25/
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Sean van Drogen avatar
Think i would also add mini-pc/laptop to the list for control of the whole setup.
Depending on where you are various dew prevention parts, which would also require a controller
As a personal preference I would also add a flatpanel to that list, just because it saves a lot of time and gives reliable repeatable flats.
Get as much mount as you feel comfortable with and thinking about what your future plans might be.


Also agree with @bobzeq25 getting started with a more forgiving setup to get the hang of good capture routines etc.

CS
Sean
CarlosSagan avatar
If you are staring out, that is not the setup for you…
Connor Kessler avatar
I still consider myself a beginner so perhaps I could speak from my own experience and extend some of the best advice I've received. 

I think when answering this question, the answer really has nothing to do what what is or is not proper, because that is entirely subjective.  The advice I was given the best advice I've received and has made the biggest difference for me is instead figuring out what gear let's me do astrophotography at all, but most importantly, what will let me do astrophotography down the line when I get better.

Basically, money is going to need to be spent regardless, but only you know just how much you think you're going to invest in the hobby aside from money.  How much time and effort do you think you're willing to spend on it.  Are you the type that goes really hard on new hobby and burns out after a while or are you the type to stick with something even if you might not be immediately good at it?  Figuring those out for yourself will be the best place to start from because that will determine things beyond the outright cost.

Where I'm trying to go with this is to make the point that you ought to weight the cost-reward ratio between the cheapest-yet-viable astrophotography option vs. the higher-budget-but-room-to-grow option.

For me, personally, this advice was godsend because within just a few months I found myself itching to push my skills further, which I was thankfully able to do with the original set of equipment I had purchased and didn't need to suddenly drop 3x as much as I had originally paid just a matter of weeks earlier to upgrade.

The most important thing in this regard is the mount.  If you're going to splurge on anything make it the mount.

A solid mount to start could theoretically last you forever until it all but stops working.  If you find yourself with a beginner astrograph and immediately fall in love and want to upgrade, you're going to be SOL if your mount can't handle the upgraded payload.

The SkyWatcher EQ-6 R Pro is an extremely popular, worthwhile mount for the fact it's well known, proven, and can be a one and done mount for years to come.

As for astrographs, The William Optics Zenithstar61/SkyWatcher ED80 would be excellent places to start for fantastic value beginner optics.  I started with the SkyWatcher ED80.  Absolutely ridiculous quality for being a doublet and sub-1k.  The reducer for it makes it very flexible for various targets.

As for a camera, if you have an old DSLR laying around literally get the rest of the gear first and just mess around with the DSLR for a while just to learn basic skills.  If you really want a dedicated astronomy camera, the ASI294MC Pro seems to be the absolute king of entry level color CMOS cameras.  Amazing quality for the price.


So all that said, those would be products I would personally advocate for, but if you take anything from this let it be that the mount is worth spending more for.
Seriously, you will save yourself SO much money if you give yourself a mount you can grow into rather than having to drop another several thousand on top of any astrograph and camera upgrades you might want later.

Sorry this was so long winded.  Hopefully it will be of help.
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Carastro avatar
I would not recommend a 200PDS for a beginner.  Better tio start wiut a smaller telescope which will fit those large nebulae and cause less problems for a beginner.  An APO refractor such as an ED80 etc would be the easiest but if you really want a Reflector the 130PDS is a better size.

Carole
kuechlew avatar
Carastro:
I would not recommend a 200ODS for a beginner.  Better tio start wiut a smaller telescope which will fit those large nebulae and cause less problems for a beginner.  An APO refractor such as an ED80 etc would be the easiest but if you really want a Reflector the 130PDS is a better size.

Carole

Good point, long focal lengths can be a source of frustration for beginners. Better to start to slowly grow into longer reach. I can support this statement from own painful experience with an AZ/GTI + Maksutov 127 / 1500mm. Worst combination ever for a beginner ...

Interestingly enough I was initially drawn into astrophotography by taking some images of the Perseid meteor shower in August last year with an Olympus Camera and a 7-14mm lens (14-28mm equivalent) from a tripod. You can't go much wider ... (ok, there's a 4mm Laowa fisheye for Olympus ...)

Admittedly you can end up with more than 4k for such a setup but that's a completely different topic ...

Have fun and clear skies
Wolfgang
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