RC6, R8, R10 Baffle Extension model, ready to be 3D printed.

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Andrea Alessandrelli avatar
I've found it recently, by chance searching "rc baffle" on thingyverse. I ordered a print and it should arrive later today. I thought it would have been nice posting it here. 

RC6
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RC8
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RC10
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These extensions aim to solve the problem explained in details in this video:  here 

Edit: the part arrived, it's not an easy fit but I managed. My suggestion is to use Black TPU material, which is light, soft and and can be "stuck" to the baffle relatively easily. Hard plastic is too stiff and It's best to not put it inside the scope unless you can secure it. 

Here to see the extension inside the RC8 tube. 
 
Clear Skies, 

Andrea
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wsg avatar
So Andreas would you say this fits inside the end of the tube and would essentially be a compact dew shield and also make a very slightly effective counter weight perhaps?

scott


edit:  the video explains the original intended use, thanks
Andrea Alessandrelli avatar
So Andreas would you say this fits inside the end of the tube and would essentially be a compact dew cover and also make a very slightly effective counter weight perhaps?

scott

It fits indeed at the end of the inner tube and solves a problem of stray light than can reach the sensor. I updated my post with a link to the video describing the problem.
Michael Timm avatar
Amazing, Andrea, thanks for sharing. Ordered one too :-)
Michele Campini avatar
I need to completely remove the secondary mirror to mout the extension ?
Andrea Alessandrelli avatar
Michele Campini:
I need to completely remove the secondary mirror to mout the extension ?

The part goes easily inside, the problem are the hands, mine fortunately are small enough.
Rod Kennedy avatar
Good to read through this thread. I had also seen the youtube video and decided I wanted the baffle extension for my truss RC10A. (I also have the CF tube RC8 and truss RC12A.) For the RC10A if a DSO target had a nearby out-of-frame bright star I sometimes saw the tell-tale signs of light ingress; but more seriously and importantly I wasn't aware that it was probably screwing up my flats all this time on all targets.

So I have some information that some of you may find useful.

1) Recent RC8 models don't have the problem because GSO has for some years used a longer baffle. Only the older models (which look identical on the outside) have shorter baffles. I've collected huge volumes of captures with my 2 year old RC8 and had zero problems with light ingress (in contrast to my experiences with a newer RC10A). So if you have an RC8, then you need to measure the baffle and compare with the table in the video to know if you really need an extension. Also this is information is corroborated by TS mentioning that the baffle design on new RC8 models have been fixed on their website.

2) The RC10A needs the extension and as recommended https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5174299/files is perfect. I've tested the extension and the performance improvement for test flats completely floored me.

3) With any 3D model on thingiverse there are plenty of services to get these printed.  However, I got frustrated waiting for a quote and general tardiness of service (in Australia).  So I bought a 3D printer and found it easy to setup and even easier to use.  So easy to use that my 9 year old is designing and printing things.  I started with zero experience with 3D printers and basically had the baffle printed within 48 hours. Good 3D printers are cheap, my Creality Ender 3 V2 I got for about $240 delivered.

So, in short, I recommend you buy a 3D printer.  There are a plethora of things you can print to pimp your telescope.

4) The most common 3D printer filament (plastic) is called PLA and you can get a flat black color/finish.  Regardless I ended up buying a cheap rechargeable electric airbrush and the excellent nanoparticle Sennelier Mars Black (Noir de Mars) 759 acrylic paint and misted about 5 fine coats on the baffle. Both the PLA and Mars Black paint are very inexpensive.

5) I modified the design of the RC10A to suit the RC12A.  My RC12A is 3rd hand and far from new.  The length of the baffle extension in the video doesn't work for the RC12A I have.  But I re-designed it for the distance to primary (344.3mm) given in the video and the baffle is 53.5mm long (not 44mm).

In all cases the extensions are a press fit into the end of the central baffle.  You don't have to pull apart the scope just reach in and push it on. It can be removed just as easily.  Just as well since it means the Mexican hat dust cover on the truss models doesn't fit with the baffle extension on. The PLA plastic is very light and surprisingly strong and stiff.

If there is interest I can include some photos.

Cheerio Rod
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Andrea Alessandrelli avatar
Michael Timm:
Amazing, Andrea, thanks for sharing. Ordered one too :-)

That's good Timm, make sure the part is soft and light (Black TPU material) so you can stuck it to the baffle. I also ordered Extrudr PLA NX2 but it's too hard to secure it without removing the secondary mirror.
Michele Campini avatar
Andrea Alessandrelli:
Michele Campini:
I need to completely remove the secondary mirror to mout the extension ?

The part goes easily inside, the problem are the hands, mine fortunately are small enough.

Thank u, in the RC8 i mean.
Andrea Alessandrelli avatar
Michele Campini:
Thank u, in the RC8 i mean.


Yes, RC8. I see you have a new Carbon RC8, the issue might have already been fixed on your model as Rod Kennedy pointed out
Francesco di Biase avatar
Rod Kennedy:
I modified the design of the RC10A to suit the RC12A. My RC12A is 3rd hand and far from new. The length of the baffle extension in the video doesn't work for the RC12A I have. But I re-designed it for the distance to primary (344.3mm) given in the video and the baffle is 53.5mm long (not 44mm).

Hi @Rod Kennedy  , can I ask you if you want to share your stl for the RC12" ?
Tareq Abdulla avatar
I bought from BuckeyeStargazer for my RC 10" but unfortunately it came broken one part of it when i can mount it, i don't know if i should glue it or not, and i didn't order another as if it that will be even safe not broken, sounds that 3D printed one wasn't strong enough, so if you made something with better material send me one please for RC10.
Francesco di Biase avatar
I've designed my own version for the 12", asap I can try the result and it confirms to fit I will share the stl file.
Rod Kennedy avatar
Hi Francesco

Sorry, I'll only now just saw your request from months ago (I've been absent). The baffle is shown below and I spray-painted it (with a cheap air-brush) with a very flat black French acrylic paint called abstract Mars Black. This paint was recommended on a cloudy night forum.

Here is the STL RC12A_Baffle_v2.stl and  3mf RC12_v2.3mf.   Hopefully these links work.

Rod

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Francesco di Biase avatar
Thank you Rod, very kind from you!