David Kamchis avatar

I own an Ioptron HEM 27 Mount for more than two years now. Ever since the start, or maybe a few months later, I can’t recall, the Dec axis was able to rotate a few degrees to each side even with its clutch locked. For those who are not aware the HEM 27 has a harmonic drive Ra axis and a classical worm gear Dec axis. The rotation wasn’t a problem though, and when not disturbed its was able to guide consistently with an RMS of under 0.7”.

About a month ago, I decided to finally fix this rotation, clearly breaking the “if it didn’t break don’t fix it” motto. So, I opened up the Mount and located the origin of the rotation to a bushing holding a bearing in place being loose. That meant the worm gear itself was able to move along its axis inside of its housing, as shown by the arrow on the image below:

📷 IMG_0418.jpegIMG_0418.jpegSo tightened the bushing and closed up the Mount thinking I had fixed the problem.

However, when I looked at the images of the next night after the reassembly, almost all had streaking stars along the same axis. When I looked at the PHD2 guiding log, I saw some weird spikes present on the Declination graph:

📷 IMG_0656.pngIMG_0656.pngIt seems to guide perfectly, and every few minutes produce a spike to one direction, followed soon by a spike of similar duration and magnitude to the opposite direction. This can continue for the whole night consistently, though the distance between the spikes is not always exactly the same. The Ra axis seems completely unaffected. I tried disassembling the HEM 27 quite a few times more, trying different things, loosening the bushing again, tightening it more, playing with the locking clutch, but none seemed to fix the issue. Sometimes the spikes would be longer and more blunt, sometimes sharper, but never completely absent. Pointing at different targets changes the behavior but the spikes are still present. I also rotated my filter wheel in a way that Dec was as balanced as possible, and there the spikes almost completely disappeared. I also tried to turn Dec guiding off, and with that the graph just drifted without spiking, but the next night it produced spikes only in one direction. The HEM 27 is carrying a pretty light payload and I’m guiding through a 50mm guide scope and ASI585MC guide camera.

📷 IMG_0533.jpegIMG_0533.jpeg(Dec off, spikes near the end are just clouds)

📷 IMG_0539.jpegIMG_0539.jpeg(Dec off, second night)

I have uninstalled and reinstalled PHD2 and the problem persists, and as it first occurred right after I disassembled the Mount it’s obvious it’s not a software issue. As it is significantly reduced when the when the rig is balanced, a mechanical issue seems the most likely. I briefly considered it could be residual current turning the motor while not being ordered to, but simply balancing the rig solving it seems to disprove that theory.

Still, the behavior baffles me. What could be causing two similar spikes in opposite directions to appear right one after the other? Since Dec is not rotating constantly like Ra, it can’t be a defect in a gear returning to the same position periodically. When everything is tightened, there’s virtually no backlash in any gear.

I have been scratching my head about this for a month now, testing different solutions, and still I haven’t arrived at the correct one. In retrospect I shouldn’t have disassembled the Mount in the first place, but as it has already happened I’m desperately looking for a way to make up for it. If anybody can provide any insight it would be incredibly helpful, as summer nebula season is rapidly approaching and I have no other rig.

Thank you,

David Kamchis

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Brian Puhl avatar

20 arc second is a huge jump! I would think if this was backlash, you would certainly notice it when you jiggle the scope? I’d double check anyways.

My only bet would be your worm gear is too tight now, causing the opposite of backlash, and binding up a bit as it guides through the teeth. Try slewing the declination by hand and listen to how the gear sounds. You may hear the issue. It throws me off though because it’s bouncing in both directions, this again just smells of backlash/slop in the mesh.

How does your calbration look? Does it show backlash in the dec?

Lastly, make sure your guide scope is tight and can’t move.

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Brian Puhl · May 26, 2026 at 12:06 PM

20 arc second is a huge jump! I would think if this was backlash, you would certainly notice it when you jiggle the scope? I’d double check anyways.

My only bet would be your worm gear is too tight now, causing the opposite of backlash, and binding up a bit as it guides through the teeth. Try slewing the declination by hand and listen to how the gear sounds. You may hear the issue. It throws me off though because it’s bouncing in both directions, this again just smells of backlash/slop in the mesh.

How does your calbration look? Does it show backlash in the dec?

Lastly, make sure your guide scope is tight and can’t move.

Thank you for the reply.

That was my initial thought, but the issue I see with that is that the spikes remain virtually the same both with the worm gear too loose and able to slide back and forth, and with it super tight. That suggests to me that another component, unrelated to the worm gear, is slipping to one side during a spike, and then returns to its original position during the second one. I’ll have to carefully check every component for slippage. But I still don’t see what could be causing it to move back and forth. Does that sound logical to you?

My calibration seems fine as I remember it, but I will try running guiding assistant the next clear night in order to measure Dec backlash. My guide scope hasn’t changed position since the problem started and the behavior doesn’t really smell like flexure. But I will check it of course.

Attached is a graph showing a pair of spikes, if there’s anything you can judge from it:

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