John Hayes:
Lynn,
I'm sorry but I have to gently correct you on this one. A reducer always has positive optical power as do most field flatteners (although that may depend on the particular optical design.) The design of the system determines where the reducer goes and where the image is formed. You are correct that the manufacturer will recommend the spacing but I would emphasize that the number one most important design parameter that the manufacturer must supply with any telescope or accessory is the "BWD" (back working distance), which is often called the "back focal distance." Without that number, it requires a lot of testing to find the position that minimizes aberration across the field.
John
Hi John. Your expertise is greater than mine regarding this subject. When I referred to the terms "manufacture's number" and "distance", I was referring to the manufacture's recommended "back focal distance" I should have been more spacific.
I was basing my comments on my experience with the Astro Physics 27TVPH reducer. Rowland recommends a "back focus distance" that renders F7.4. However he also goes to some length to explaine that different distances will render different foacal ratios. He give the example of a distance that will render a F8 ratio. And, it can be used at other distances. It is not a flattener and varying the distance will have different effect on the flat field. The recommended F7.4 probably has the least affect on the scope native flat field. I use it at F4.8 with a AP130GTX, but have also use it at F4.5 with a TMB130SS. It works well with small to mid-sized chips. The newer Astro Physics Quad Telecompressor is a combination reducer/flattener and must be used at correct "back focal distance".
The other reducer I have experenced using at different back focal distances is the old SBIG E-Finder reducer. You may (or may not) remember it could be placed in different positions to produce different F ratios. If I remember correctly, it could be placed on a F10 SCT to produce a F5 or F3.3 ratio, despite that it's flat field was poor.
I was basing my comments on those experiences, and concluding that reducers do not have a fixed back focal distance.
Thank you for your comments.
Lynn K.