Stuck on OSC + Dual Band Processing

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Godfrey Benjamin avatar

Hi everyone! I’m having a bit of trouble with processing - I have both the Owl Nebula and M108 in the same frame, but what I did is have two different masters - one for OSC and one for dual-band using the L-Ultimate filter. I’m stuck on the processing, as I want to bring out the H-alpha in the galaxy while retaining the blues of the nebula. Both were stacked independently of each other, with Cosmetic Correction and Debayering applied through WBPP so both came out of the oven with color.

I’m hoping for some ideas to try to work with both masters - the end goal is to have one master file that has adjustments done on both.

Godfrey

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Scott Horton avatar

There are several ways to go about this but what you are essentially trying to do is a NBLRGB combo. Heres a high level overview on one way to do it without pixel math. There are some great scripts to help you accompish this with OSC. I would grab these if you dont already have them - Pixinsight toolbox from https://www.ideviceapps.de/PixInsight/Utilities/. Cosmic photons tools for image blend script https://www.cosmicphotons.com/pi-scripts/imageblend/ The continuum subtraction script from seti astro pixinsight scripts https://raw.githubusercontent.com/setiastro/pixinsight-updates/main/ and the pixinsight script DBXtract https://dbxtract.astrocitas.com/

If you have never added scripts, you should be able to find a quick youtube tutorial on how to manage your repository and add the URLs.

I would use your broadband image as your base image, do your normal linear things. Extract the RGB channels and set aside. Then stretch your broadband image - set aside.

Use the DBXtract script on your duo narrowband linear stack this will get you a fairly isolated Ha and OIII channel to process like a mono channel. Ideally you would then use the continuum subtraction script on your NB data (will utilize those RGB images you had set aside) - this will spit out non linear Ha and OIII data.

Then explore the Combine Ha with RGB or combine NB with RGB scripts in the toolbox to blend the data. Alternatively, you could use the imageblend script to blend the two images combined with masks - something along the lines of screening data with a color mask applied.

Use the selective color correction script and or curves to dial in your final color adjustments.

Now that you know the names of the scripts, you should be able to find the assortment of youtube tutorials to get you started.

Have fun!

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Tony Gondola avatar

PI is wonderful but this might be a place where a layer based photo editor might be a better tool. Something like Affinity might be well worth learning as things like this are very simple to do.

Paul Leibinger avatar

What Scott described works very good for me

Lucas Jacobson avatar

You can do channel extraction on your L-Ultimate, the separation of your filter combined with the bayer filter on your OSC gives decent separation of Ha and Oiii. Your red becomes your Ha, and your Oiii is left in your green and blue channel. The noise level on G and B are a little different so you may stretch/denoise separately then pixelMath Oiii=.7*G + .3*B. You can also just toss the B and call G your Oiii, but I’ve found I get a little bit better results recombining to match the approximate relative QE at Oiii for each color. Then, you can just use that Oiii image like you would with a single band pass filter.

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Scott Horton avatar

Tony Gondola · Apr 13, 2026 at 03:57 PM

PI is wonderful but this might be a place where a layer based photo editor might be a better tool. Something like Affinity might be well worth learning as things like this are very simple to do.

Agreed, masking and layer based editing has a huge advantage over PI in this stage of processing.

Godfrey Benjamin avatar

Thanks for the suggestions everyone! This was one of those cases where I needed to expand past PI - I ended up finding Seti Astro Suite and that did the job, especially with the masking and layering. I’ll be posting the final result soon!

Godfrey

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Lucas Jacobson avatar

I like the idea on the blended layering approach, do you guys know of a layer based software solution like Photoshop that allows 32-bit FP data? It would be great to be able to work in 32-bit FP space like .xisf files rather than truncate to 16 bit tiff.

Tony Gondola avatar

Affinity can read 32 bit fits files but not well. It really doesn’t matter very much because normally, you’ll have already done your stretching long before you ever get to the photo editor. In my own work, I’ve never found 16 bit files at that point to be a problem.

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Lucas Jacobson · Apr 15, 2026, 08:33 PM

I like the idea on the blended layering approach, do you guys know of a layer based software solution like Photoshop that allows 32-bit FP data? It would be great to be able to work in 32-bit FP space like .xisf files rather than truncate to 16 bit tiff.

I dont personally, have never really strayed from PS. But, I often leave my luminance or extract luminance in PI and then only work on chrominance if I need layered editing in PS - bring that back to PI and layer it as color over my preserved 32b luminance data in image blend if that makes sense.

I watched seti astro present SASPro in the most recent TIAC youtube presenation - wow! It has a lot more tools than I realized. He mentioned non destructive layered editing but didnt have time to demo it - I suspect it would be the go to to work in 32-bit if needed.

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Scott Horton · Apr 15, 2026, 10:13 PM

Lucas Jacobson · Apr 15, 2026, 08:33 PM

I like the idea on the blended layering approach, do you guys know of a layer based software solution like Photoshop that allows 32-bit FP data? It would be great to be able to work in 32-bit FP space like .xisf files rather than truncate to 16 bit tiff.

I dont personally, have never really strayed from PS. But, I often leave my luminance or extract luminance in PI and then only work on chrominance if I need layered editing in PS - bring that back to PI and layer it as color over my preserved 32b luminance data in image blend if that makes sense.

I watched seti astro present SASPro in the most recent TIAC youtube presenation - wow! It has a lot more tools than I realized. He mentioned non destructive layered editing but didnt have time to demo it - I suspect it would be the go to to work in 32-bit if needed.

So Seti Astro Suite was what I used to complete the blending with the layers for the current photo. I believe that it could work with 32-bit data, but I was working with 64-bit data at the time. I would definitely give it a try!

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Lucas Jacobson avatar

64 fixed point would be great too. Just something to keep from stacking round off errors in the processing. I try to wait to dither to 16-bit until the last moment it makes sense. Most of the time it’s when I do the final save as .tif/.jpeg.

Monty Chandler avatar

Process manually

Alan M avatar

If using PI get the SetiAstro scripts and also get Mike Cranfield’s scrips from Cosmic Photons. What youre going to want to to to isolate the Ha in the galaxy is use continuum subtraction (SA) and screen that over your RGB image using ImageBlend. Cuiv’s youtube and the AstroImaging Channel (look for image blend with Adam Block) for ideas on how to do this. You will problably need like 3 images that get blended together; can blend 2 together then add the third. FRAME masking tool from SetiAstro will be your friend as well.

One is a HOO version of the Owl

One is continuum subtracted Ha for M108

One is the RGB image for natural M108 color.

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