Clean your dirty mirror

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Craig Towell avatar

Here are two images, taken before and after cleaning the primary mirror on my 200P-DS. The bright star is Regulus.

The images are both single 30 second green subs with no processing and just an STF applied)

On the left the image from the dirty mirror is exhibiting much more scatter than the clean mirror.

The image from the clean mirror is showing two faint stars close to Regulus (Stellarium shows these as mags 15.6 and 16.0) which are not detected at all by the dirty mirror!

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Tony Gondola avatar

Interesting result and really not surprising as dirty optics will scatter light. I guess the trick is how dirty is too dirty? I would love to see a picture of the mirror before cleaning if you have one.

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Tony Gondola · Mar 30, 2026, 02:56 PM

Interesting result and really not surprising as dirty optics will scatter light. I guess the trick is how dirty is too dirty? I would love to see a picture of the mirror before cleaning if you have one.

Sorry I didn’t take a picture of the mirror itself, but it was dirty enough that had you looked down the tube in daylight you would have thought to yourself “wow that’s pretty dirty”.

It is a DSO imaging scope and so it spends many hours on clear nights pointing upwards gathering crud from above, and it needs cleaning about 3 times a year. Its last clean was end of summer 2025.

I just use a no contact method of rinsing under the tap then bathing in hand hot soapy water, followed by another rinse and a blow dry with a hairdryer. I don’t touch the mirrored surface with anything.

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Brian Puhl avatar

The same things happen in a refractor too. I had to clean mine recently. It stays outside 24/7 and sometimes I’m a little late to getting the dust cap on before pollen or other things settle in.

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Bill McLaughlin avatar

This is one of the complaints I have about many, if not most, remote sites. Few of them offer optical cleaning, probably due to damage liability concerns. Your post shows just how important this can be.

My friend has been at several remote sites, all in NM, and not one cleaned his optics. He has sent me photos of what his optics looked like after a couple years and it was pretty shocking. With a bit of water you could have grown crops on them. 🍅🥕🫛🍄‍🟫

Of course my experience has been that NM is one of the worst places for dust and that probably does not help but you would think that part of a hosting service should be cleaning services, either standard or optional.

In my case I make a trip once a year to my remote site in California and clean my own optics. It is not especially dusty so the cleaning interval of one year is about right.

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Bill McLaughlin · Mar 30, 2026 at 06:57 PM

This is one of the complaints I have about many, if not most, remote sites. Few of them offer optical cleaning, probably due to damage liability concerns. Your post shows just how important this can be.

My friend has been at several remote sites, all in NM, and not one cleaned his optics. He has sent me photos of what his optics looked like after a couple years and it was pretty shocking. With a bit of water you could have grown crops on them. 🍅🥕🫛🍄‍🟫

Of course my experience has been that NM is one of the worst places for dust and that probably does not help but you would think that part of a hosting service should be cleaning services, either standard or optional.

In my case I make a trip once a year to my remote site in California and clean my own optics. It is not especially dusty so the cleaning interval of one year is about right.

Yes that’s a very good point, something I would need to consider if I ever sent my kit off to a remote site (which is not happening anytime soon).

I guess the sheer variety of scopes at these sites makes it difficult to offer cleaning services. A refractor would be relatively easy but big reflectors much more difficult. And scope owners would likely insist on their own particular method of cleaning too, would be a real headache for the site owners.

I wonder if remote obs could employ frozen CO2 spray like the professional observatories do?

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Bill McLaughlin · Mar 30, 2026, 06:57 PM

This is one of the complaints I have about many, if not most, remote sites. Few of them offer optical cleaning, probably due to damage liability concerns. Your post shows just how important this can be.

My friend has been at several remote sites, all in NM, and not one cleaned his optics. He has sent me photos of what his optics looked like after a couple years and it was pretty shocking. With a bit of water you could have grown crops on them. 🍅🥕🫛🍄‍🟫

Of course my experience has been that NM is one of the worst places for dust and that probably does not help but you would think that part of a hosting service should be cleaning services, either standard or optional.

In my case I make a trip once a year to my remote site in California and clean my own optics. It is not especially dusty so the cleaning interval of one year is about right.

Spring is the wind and dust season in NM. You’ll always want to schedule your cleaning visits after that.

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Was looking for somewhere to grow some spuds.

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Matthew Proulx avatar

I guess it really depends on how vigilant you are with covering the scope every morning. I live on a grain farm and have scopes in my roll off roof observatory and it gets dusty and pollen all around here and I have not cleaned mirrors or lenses much. My remote scope has a flip flat cover also. I wouldn’t have anything remote without a cover.

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Craig Towell avatar

Hmmm… somewhere between 1000-2000 USD for a small CO2 snow cleaning machine - I’m surprised remote observatories don’t already use these kits for hassle free cleaning of their clients optics.

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Craig Towell · Mar 31, 2026, 02:08 PM

Hmmm… somewhere between 1000-2000 USD for a small CO2 snow cleaning machine - I’m surprised remote observatories don’t already use these kits for hassle free cleaning of their clients optics.

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I would guess it’s a matter of liability. I can very easily see a situation where a client sues because he thinks his huge mirror was ruined by improper cleaning. Someone who can afford to remotely run a large rig can also afford a really good lawyer and it doesn’t matter a bit what the contract says.

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