Most effective processing approaches for small astronomical targets

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Interactive Sky avatar

Hi everyone 🙂

I’m just wondering what people typically use for imaging small planetary nebulae.

What setups have worked well for you in terms of:

  • focal length and aperture

  • camera choice (pixel size, sensor type)

  • exposure strategy

Also curious what processing approaches you find most effective for bringing out detail in such small targets.

Thanks!

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Spacey avatar

In my opinion you need at least 2000mm focal length to start with planetary nebula and then you’ll only get a handful. If you are imaging from under light polluted skies you will need a larger sensor to make plate solving work and at that focal length a crop sensor camera will almost be required.

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Hi, Spacey

Thank you for your suggestion. I also wonder which type would work best. RC, SCT, or Mak?

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Image scale between 0.8"/px to 0.65"/px to 0.5"/px (remote only) so focal lengths between 2m to 1.2m (most recent). Except for very few a 4/3 sensor would suffice.
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Interactive Sky:
Hi, Spacey

Thank you for your suggestion. I also wonder which type would work best. RC, SCT, or Mak?

*If you can find a Russian Mak of generous aperture then that. Otherwise Classical Cassegrain or RC or Modified DK.
Spacey avatar

Practically speaking F/10 or F/11 is the slowest optical system I would try to use and given my own experience with my edge 8” at F10, you are better off reducing it to F/7 for imaging work.

I used it at F10 for 1 image and it was not fun to throw out 50% of the frames. I use a reducer for the scope, operate at F7 at around 1500mm focal length where the performance is much better and you can easily live with it.

I recently captured the medusa and headphones nebula. I think there may be one or two more that I can yield a tennis ball sized image to work with.

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Basic advice as I’ve some a bit of this lately. For shooting small PN and most galaxies you need focal length. Independent of aperture it’s practical and possible to image all the way up to F/12. You’ll have to fight a bit more for the needed integration time and pick your targets wisely but It’s not imposable to image at those ratios. The type of scope is less important than the quality of the optics. It has to be sharp because you’re going to be pushing it. Don’t be afraid to oversample and despite general advice, you can use a Barlow, just make sure it’s high quality and well color corrected.

The really big factor in how far you can push this is your local seeing. I’m in the central United States where the seeing is highly variable. When I’m imaging at 0.66” per pixel, I can still get useful data on rough nights, not so at 0.33”. At least not with a huge amount of culling which is the last thing you want to have to do with a slow system.

On the processing side, good sharping tools become really important. BlurX is the gold standard right now as it tightens up the images while preserving star profiles. Cosmic Clarity by Seti Astro is powerful but you’ll have to work hard to preserve your stars. The sharpening tools in Affinity are also excellent and can be layered in to get that final finish. This is an area were it pays to experiment with frequency separation, wavelets and so on. All of these tools are powerful and can ruin an image quicker than boiled asparagus so you’ll need a light hand and good judgement.

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