Don't underestimate what Claude can do with your NINA Advanced Sequencer JSON

Frank "Voloire"Arun HTony GondolaSpaceyandrea tasselli
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Frank "Voloire" avatar

Been using Claude (Anthropic's AI) as a hands-on co-pilot across my entire AP workflow — not just for generic questions, but with direct access to my files, FITS headers, and sequencer JSON. Here's what a single session looked like.

It started by reading my FITS headers and correctly identifying my target as LBN 239 & LBN 251 (IC 1318 / Gamma Cygni complex) from raw RA/Dec coordinates — I had the wrong name in my notes.
It then parsed 164 light frames across 5 nights, built a per-night airmass table showing exactly when each session dropped below 2.0 and when the best transparency window hit (consistently 04:30–05:15 local).

From that airmass data it proposed a smarter filter order: HA first (strongest signal, tolerates high airmass at session start), SII in the middle, OIII always last — consistently shot in the best transparency window every night.
Obvious in retrospect, easy to miss when you're just clicking through NINA's loop UI.

Then it rewrote my entire multi-target sequence JSON from scratch — four targets (Sadr SHO+RGB, M65, M86, M13 LRGB), removed all loop/iteration structures, replaced them with clean sequential SmartExposure blocks, calculated exactly how many additional frames each filter still needed to reach balance against existing data..

Finally — and this is the part I care about most — it added park-on-failure safety logic: if plate solve or autofocus fails (assuming: clouds, bad seeing), the mount parks immediately rather than keeping tracking while waiting for the next target to rise. Real pier-crash prevention, not just a nice-to-have.

Three JSON versions, zero manual editing, all from plain conversation.

Ridiculous.

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All of which can be done with a modicum of brain power and no AI.
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andrea tasselli · Mar 24, 2026, 10:33 PM

All of which can be done with a modicum of brain power and no AI.

Resistance is futile my dear friend, ofc I get your point.
As an IT Manager myself I fight with this all the day long, but still… it could be so helpful for a number of people.
Of course, you’re the only master of the process and SHALL know the domain and SHALL review the output.

While, as I said, I get your point; “Resistance is Futile” - Borg cit.

:-)

Clear skyes folks

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andrea tasselli · Mar 24, 2026, 10:33 PM

All of which can be done with a modicum of brain power and no AI.

I like this fighting spirit but I also like jumping the learning curve.

Tony Gondola avatar

A.I. has it’s uses. I would just rather task it with higher level problems.

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Spacey · Mar 24, 2026 at 11:18 PM

andrea tasselli · Mar 24, 2026, 10:33 PM

All of which can be done with a modicum of brain power and no AI.

I like this fighting spirit but I also like jumping the learning curve.

No reason not to do both.

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Tony Gondola · Mar 25, 2026, 01:11 AM

A.I. has it’s uses. I would just rather task it with higher level problems.

The brainless repetitive task of iterate via python and the astropy library to search in the fits header… I mean it’s boring enough to give it to an LLM. It worked fine for me, a lots of people it’s not techie and this technology is revolutionary, as you all already knows.

NINA advanced sequencer is scaring for a lot of people.

If you are not one of those just skip.

So if you haven’t tried it slam the NINA advanced sequencer json in the face of your fav LLM and try asking :-)

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Frank "Voloire" · Mar 24, 2026, 10:15 PM

Been using Claude (Anthropic's AI) as a hands-on co-pilot across my entire AP workflow — not just for generic questions, but with direct access to my files, FITS headers, and sequencer JSON. Here's what a single session looked like.

It started by reading my FITS headers and correctly identifying my target as LBN 239 & LBN 251 (IC 1318 / Gamma Cygni complex) from raw RA/Dec coordinates — I had the wrong name in my notes.
It then parsed 164 light frames across 5 nights, built a per-night airmass table showing exactly when each session dropped below 2.0 and when the best transparency window hit (consistently 04:30–05:15 local).

From that airmass data it proposed a smarter filter order: HA first (strongest signal, tolerates high airmass at session start), SII in the middle, OIII always last — consistently shot in the best transparency window every night.
Obvious in retrospect, easy to miss when you're just clicking through NINA's loop UI.

Then it rewrote my entire multi-target sequence JSON from scratch — four targets (Sadr SHO+RGB, M65, M86, M13 LRGB), removed all loop/iteration structures, replaced them with clean sequential SmartExposure blocks, calculated exactly how many additional frames each filter still needed to reach balance against existing data..

Finally — and this is the part I care about most — it added park-on-failure safety logic: if plate solve or autofocus fails (assuming: clouds, bad seeing), the mount parks immediately rather than keeping tracking while waiting for the next target to rise. Real pier-crash prevention, not just a nice-to-have.

Three JSON versions, zero manual editing, all from plain conversation.

Ridiculous.

By using AI to help tune your sequence you’ve been exposed to a better way of doing things. I am sure you would have figured out on the changes on your own, but not quite so fast. You’ll now start evolving your own knowledge from a higher point than before.

You’ve jumped the learning curve.

AI brings the gatekeeper out in people, people who feel threatened. :)

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Spacey · Mar 25, 2026, 08:49 AM

Frank "Voloire" · Mar 24, 2026, 10:15 PM

Been using Claude (Anthropic's AI) as a hands-on co-pilot across my entire AP workflow — not just for generic questions, but with direct access to my files, FITS headers, and sequencer JSON. Here's what a single session looked like.

It started by reading my FITS headers and correctly identifying my target as LBN 239 & LBN 251 (IC 1318 / Gamma Cygni complex) from raw RA/Dec coordinates — I had the wrong name in my notes.
It then parsed 164 light frames across 5 nights, built a per-night airmass table showing exactly when each session dropped below 2.0 and when the best transparency window hit (consistently 04:30–05:15 local).

From that airmass data it proposed a smarter filter order: HA first (strongest signal, tolerates high airmass at session start), SII in the middle, OIII always last — consistently shot in the best transparency window every night.
Obvious in retrospect, easy to miss when you're just clicking through NINA's loop UI.

Then it rewrote my entire multi-target sequence JSON from scratch — four targets (Sadr SHO+RGB, M65, M86, M13 LRGB), removed all loop/iteration structures, replaced them with clean sequential SmartExposure blocks, calculated exactly how many additional frames each filter still needed to reach balance against existing data..

Finally — and this is the part I care about most — it added park-on-failure safety logic: if plate solve or autofocus fails (assuming: clouds, bad seeing), the mount parks immediately rather than keeping tracking while waiting for the next target to rise. Real pier-crash prevention, not just a nice-to-have.

Three JSON versions, zero manual editing, all from plain conversation.

Ridiculous.

By using AI to help tune your sequence you’ve been exposed to a better way of doing things. I am sure you would have figured out on the changes on your own, but not quite so fast. You’ll now start evolving your own knowledge from a higher point than before.

You’ve jumped the learning curve.

AI brings the gatekeeper out in people, people who feel threatened. :)

So... basically, using an LLM within the world of astrophotography — as far as I'm concerned — means extracting known patterns that millions of users have contributed over the years, entered through different systems. And through a process we could call maieutic, turning that into knowledge I can actually access.

So it's not a broad, polarizing philosophical debate about whether or not to use these tools — it's exactly that: using a tool. A tool built precisely to allow access to shared knowledge, knowledge that millions of people have poured in over years through various means.

The maieutic process happens through prompting. Obviously, you need domain knowledge and subject-matter competence to do it well.

So yes — keep improving, keep learning. Because otherwise, what are we even here for?

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It means nothing at all. A strongly doubt there are "millions" of us in any way shape or form and you signally failed to learn something through the exercise of brain power which in itself is the whole point of the "learning curve". AI did it for you, at most you copied and pasted. Next step: let Claude or whatever run the whole gizmo; that would save you quite a bit of learning curve.
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andrea tasselli · Mar 25, 2026 at 10:17 AM

AI did it for you, at most you copied and pasted. Next step: let Claude or whatever run the whole gizmo; that would save you quite a bit of learning curve.

There are many of us who quite literally download calibrated masters and don’t bother with NINA or telescopes or mounts at all.

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In jumping the learning curve (not just relevant to AP), I feel like people end up missing the nuances and end up failing to learn fully. AI definitely has its place in todays world (and should be made use of like any other tool) but it becomes painfully obvious when it ends up as an individuals only source of information and ‘learning’.

At the end of the day though, this is a hobby for most people here. If someone doesn't end up getting on with a particular part of it then they'll find ways around it. For some that might be getting AI to pick their targets and others might just skip the middleman and buy the data. To each their own! What matters is that there isn't friction in enjoyment of the hobby.

There's a wealth of knowledge from experienced individuals available on forums, blogs and videos etc, that could take someone a good long time to fully grasp. I'm in this hobby for the long run (and hopefully have a lifetime ahead of me) and I'd rather take the time to absorb that knowledge, with or without the using AI as a starting point. If that means I'm not hitting the ground running in all aspects then so be it. For me personally, the mistakes and frustrations are a part of learning, but not everyone has the time or patience for that! :)

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Arun H:
There are many of us who quite literally download calibrated masters and don’t bother with NINA or telescopes or mounts at all.


*I meant actually producing the final image, jumping over all those pesky and time-consuming "learning curves".
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When I was in college I read from textbooks that exposed to me fantastic new ideas developed from people who spent years working on those ideas. I did not do the learning they did, I began with their ideas and took it from there. I jumped the learning curve. Haha. :)

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Spacey · Mar 25, 2026 at 12:12 PM

I did not do the learning they did, I began with their ideas and took it from there. I jumped the learning curve. Haha. :)

I don’t think that qualifies as jumping the learning curve. You could similarly say that Isaac Newton skipped the learning curve because he used ideas and learnings from Kepler, Galileo and others.

These days, instructors check whether lab reports are AI generated. I would say if you used AI to generate a report, you definitely skipped the learning curve!

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I totally agree. That would be cheating!

Issac Newton indeed jumped the learning curve by standing on the shoulders of the giants that came before him. ’m just saying AI can help you learn faster, you can skip a lot of trial and error where you just burn time and don’t progress.

AI can help you learn. I’m a little older than many here and I think access to well written learning aids has decreased over the years. Today we have to rely on you tube and internet forums to pick up alot of the knowledge required to setup and run the equipment and processing the results.

I started astrophotography a little over a year ago with no background in photography or image processing. Today I understand quite few facets of the hobby with some real rigor. AI helped me jump a very frustrating learning curve that I’m sure causes many people to quit the hobby early.

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Frank "Voloire" · Mar 25, 2026, 09:54 AM

Spacey · Mar 25, 2026, 08:49 AM

Frank "Voloire" · Mar 24, 2026, 10:15 PM

Been using Claude (Anthropic's AI) as a hands-on co-pilot across my entire AP workflow — not just for generic questions, but with direct access to my files, FITS headers, and sequencer JSON. Here's what a single session looked like.

It started by reading my FITS headers and correctly identifying my target as LBN 239 & LBN 251 (IC 1318 / Gamma Cygni complex) from raw RA/Dec coordinates — I had the wrong name in my notes.
It then parsed 164 light frames across 5 nights, built a per-night airmass table showing exactly when each session dropped below 2.0 and when the best transparency window hit (consistently 04:30–05:15 local).

From that airmass data it proposed a smarter filter order: HA first (strongest signal, tolerates high airmass at session start), SII in the middle, OIII always last — consistently shot in the best transparency window every night.
Obvious in retrospect, easy to miss when you're just clicking through NINA's loop UI.

Then it rewrote my entire multi-target sequence JSON from scratch — four targets (Sadr SHO+RGB, M65, M86, M13 LRGB), removed all loop/iteration structures, replaced them with clean sequential SmartExposure blocks, calculated exactly how many additional frames each filter still needed to reach balance against existing data..

Finally — and this is the part I care about most — it added park-on-failure safety logic: if plate solve or autofocus fails (assuming: clouds, bad seeing), the mount parks immediately rather than keeping tracking while waiting for the next target to rise. Real pier-crash prevention, not just a nice-to-have.

Three JSON versions, zero manual editing, all from plain conversation.

Ridiculous.

By using AI to help tune your sequence you’ve been exposed to a better way of doing things. I am sure you would have figured out on the changes on your own, but not quite so fast. You’ll now start evolving your own knowledge from a higher point than before.

You’ve jumped the learning curve.

AI brings the gatekeeper out in people, people who feel threatened. :)

So... basically, using an LLM within the world of astrophotography — as far as I'm concerned — means extracting known patterns that millions of users have contributed over the years, entered through different systems. And through a process we could call maieutic, turning that into knowledge I can actually access.

So it's not a broad, polarizing philosophical debate about whether or not to use these tools — it's exactly that: using a tool. A tool built precisely to allow access to shared knowledge, knowledge that millions of people have poured in over years through various means.

The maieutic process happens through prompting. Obviously, you need domain knowledge and subject-matter competence to do it well.

So yes — keep improving, keep learning. Because otherwise, what are we even here for?

I think one of the problems with AI these days is the very fact that its information base is the internet. There’s a lot of out of date or just plain wrong information out there in the astrophotography world. The few times I’ve used it it took several rounds of me saying “ah, no. That’s incorrect” followed by the AI saying “You’re obsoletely right!” Kinda shakes my confidence in the output right now.

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Spacey · Mar 25, 2026, 12:12 PM

When I was in college I read from textbooks that exposed to me fantastic new ideas developed from people who spent years working on those ideas. I did not do the learning they did, I began with their ideas and took it from there. I jumped the learning curve. Haha. :)

Yes but they ddn’t do your homework or take the exam for you…

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andrea tasselli · Mar 25, 2026, 10:17 AM

It means nothing at all. A strongly doubt there are "millions" of us in any way shape or form and you signally failed to learn something through the exercise of brain power which in itself is the whole point of the "learning curve". AI did it for you, at most you copied and pasted. Next step: let Claude or whatever run the whole gizmo; that would save you quite a bit of learning curve.

I don’t see much difference in using AI as a tool to potentially show you a better way of doing things than watching any of the various videos or websites showing new techniques. Some aren’t very good, and some are excellent. It’s up to you to try them and sort them out. AI sometimes produces garbage, but sometimes it exposes a nugget of information you never would have thought of on your own.

We tend to find a way of doing things and sticking with it until disrupted by new information from an external source that can lead to improvement. AI is just one of those external sources.

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LOL — I honestly thought that putting 'JSON' in the title would shield me — and us — from the usual polarization on these topics.
I'm an IT manager, a software engineer with 30 years in the field.
I work with these tools in the real world and I'd like to think I understand how they work under the hood.
I don't read a million-row table by hand — I use SQL. I use calculators, phones, and refrigerators.
And in 2026, given the assumptions I laid out above, there's absolutely no way I'm going to sit down and write even the smallest Python script with Astropy just to read FITS headers from hundreds of images to check airmass values.
And I deliberately used technical language to make it clear that I know what I'm talking about. So to those people — and only those people, not the visual-only Newtonian crowd, the ones who don't know what a JSON is, don't use an IDE, and for whom Python is a snake — let me say it again: do not underestimate the power of AI tools, especially when integrated into your target planning workflow, because if you model the prompt correctly, the results are — frankly — embarrassing.
A warm hello to everyone and clear skies from beautiful Italy!

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Learning curves?

Oh, like buying a go-to mount and letting it help you learn the Universe as it takes you from star to star?

The fact that we are all on Astrobin shows we are using computers instead of the Pony Express.

Me, Myself, and I welcome all the electronic help I find useful. There wasn’t much help from egotists. I had to dig in and figure out what various AI (Computers and Applications) were trying to show me. And troubleshoot my software when it got corrupted. Still do.

EAA was and still is to me: Electronically Assisted Astronomy. Go-To mounts, Guiding equipment, Electronic Cameras, and Computers, etc.

Personally, over the decades I’ve used Stellarium to locate starting with browsing the program, and now as my object choosing App to input into NINA’s Framing Wizard to setup where my mount slews to.

It is working smarter, not harder.

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I’ve been using Claude over the past week or so to diagnose my guiding and it’s done a great job. Not just taking what it spits out, but interrogating it, and asking it questions about what something means, and why, and pointing out some simple mistakes. This has all happened iteratively -feeding back the phd stats of different settings and approaches.

I have to say I’ve been seriously impressed by it. And the guiding is the best ever. And its identified some particular quirks in the physics of the mount and setup balance which consistently happen at a certain angle (transient but consistent at that angle). Fascinating stuff.

I think if you use it as a learning partner, it’s a fantastic tool. If you use it as a gospel source, you’ll go awry - and will also tbh miss a lot of learning opportunities.

We can't all have human Jedi masters on tap at whatever o’clock!

Arun H avatar

In many ways, these discussions remind me of the whole man versus computer or man versus machine discussions of the past. At the end of the day, Frank is right. These tools are increasingly capable and increasingly adopted and will very soon, if no already, be superior to what you can do on your own. Rather than fight it, embrace and adopt it. Even in my own, non software profession, I am surprised by the kind of information I can get from AI. As for them being wrong some of the time - what percent of time do you think some human you ask for help is wrong? How often are you wrong? How often is something you discover on the internet wrong?

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Gemini has been a great help in diagnosing issues with star shapes. Using text, Gemini was able to correctly diagnose the problem and give me steps to fix it. There are many forums in the astrophotography world, and using Gemini to access all of the information at the same time is a huge time saver.

I am a sophomore in college, and I use AI on a daily basis as a learning tool. I have used Claude to code programs using Python, MATLAB, and C++. Claude is REALLY GOOD at coding, but not as useful as Gemini for things like image recognition and creation, complex problem solving, and optimization processes.

AI has its drawbacks, no matter which way you look at it, but it is still a useful tool for astrophotography.

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