Astrophilos avatar

Hi everyone,

I’d like to share a project I’ve been working on since early July which has now reached an advanced stage of development.

It is a fully Automatic Polar Alignment (APA) solution, designed to work autonomously to significantly simplify telescope setup.

The software side is complete and functional. It currently integrates with N.I.N.A. TPPA, and I am planning to add compatibility with SharpCap soon.

The system supports two operating modes:

  • USB Connection: For fully automatic polar alignment via PC.

  • Wi-Fi Connection: For manual control via smartphone (allowing you to move the motors using on-screen buttons for visual adjustments).

Hardware & Specs: Mechanically, the final version will be CNC machined from aluminum, focusing on precision, rigidity, and repeatability. The design targets a payload capacity greater than 25 kg, making it suitable for demanding imaging setups.

Being a DIY-oriented project, the goal is to keep costs reasonable—definitely under €424.55 ($500) USD for the fully aluminum version. For lighter setups, it will be possible to use 3D-printed parts to bring the cost down significantly. Assembly is designed to be accessible even to users with basic DIY experience.

Bonus feature: With an additional accessory, the unit can also serve as an equatorial wedge for DIY harmonic mounts.

Project Status & Availability: Regarding distribution: while it won't be open source, I plan to release the build files/instructions for a small fee to help cover the time and R&D invested.

I’ve recently performed the first real-world tests using the software paired with a motorized Sky-Watcher wedge (since the final APA hardware is currently being manufactured). Starting from a rough visual alignment with a large initial error, the system managed to reduce the error to arcsecond-level accuracy in about 4 minutes.

Demo: If you are curious to see a little more, I’m releasing a short teaser video in a few hours (7:15 PM CET) on my YouTube channel: Astrophilos.

I’m posting this here specifically to get feedback and thoughts from the DIY community. If there is interest, I’ll be happy to share more technical details and updates as I progress toward the final build.

Clear skies!


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Tony Gondola avatar

Interesting project and I’m sure it’s been fun to do the development. I’m curious, what is the average time to get to the stated accuracy and how deep into to twilight do you have to get for it to be effective?

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Craig Towell avatar

Sounds great! About time someone motorised polar alignment. Is this something that will sit between tripod/pier and the mount head? If so is the 25kg payload inclusive of mount head, CW and scope?

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Astrophilos · Dec 26, 2025 at 05:12 PM

Hi everyone,

I’d like to share a project I’ve been working on since early July which has now reached an advanced stage of development.

It is a fully Automatic Polar Alignment (APA) solution, designed to work autonomously to significantly simplify telescope setup.

The software side is complete and functional. It currently integrates with N.I.N.A. TPPA, and I am planning to add compatibility with SharpCap soon.

The system supports two operating modes:

  • USB Connection: For fully automatic polar alignment via PC.

  • Wi-Fi Connection: For manual control via smartphone (allowing you to move the motors using on-screen buttons for visual adjustments).

Hardware & Specs: Mechanically, the final version will be CNC machined from aluminum, focusing on precision, rigidity, and repeatability. The design targets a payload capacity greater than 25 kg, making it suitable for demanding imaging setups.

Being a DIY-oriented project, the goal is to keep costs reasonable—definitely under €424.55 ($500) USD for the fully aluminum version. For lighter setups, it will be possible to use 3D-printed parts to bring the cost down significantly. Assembly is designed to be accessible even to users with basic DIY experience.

Bonus feature: With an additional accessory, the unit can also serve as an equatorial wedge for DIY harmonic mounts.

Project Status & Availability: Regarding distribution: while it won't be open source, I plan to release the build files/instructions for a small fee to help cover the time and R&D invested.

I’ve recently performed the first real-world tests using the software paired with a motorized Sky-Watcher wedge (since the final APA hardware is currently being manufactured). Starting from a rough visual alignment with a large initial error, the system managed to reduce the error to arcsecond-level accuracy in about 4 minutes.

Demo: If you are curious to see a little more, I’m releasing a short teaser video in a few hours (7:15 PM CET) on my YouTube channel: Astrophilos.

I’m posting this here specifically to get feedback and thoughts from the DIY community. If there is interest, I’ll be happy to share more technical details and updates as I progress toward the final build.

Clear skies!


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Would it be able to align to any star in the sky? Polaris is obstructed from my home, so I tend to use TPPA with it pointed at a different star to polar align.

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Tony Gondola · Dec 26, 2025, 06:21 PM

Interesting project and I’m sure it’s been fun to do the development. I’m curious, what is the average time to get to the stated accuracy and how deep into to twilight do you have to get for it to be effective?

Thanks! yes a lot of fun, I’m loving this project more than my mounts.

The avarage time is about 2 minutes, you need to visualize at least 7/8 stars, so you can do platesolve

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Craig Towell · Dec 26, 2025, 06:36 PM

Sounds great! About time someone motorised polar alignment. Is this something that will sit between tripod/pier and the mount head? If so is the 25kg payload inclusive of mount head, CW and scope?

Exactly is something that sits in between tripod and mount (it can act as tripod pier), if the mount is balanced, you can have also more than 25kg on top, probably close to 35kg. but yes with head, cw and scope.

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bigCatAstro · Dec 26, 2025, 06:37 PM

Astrophilos · Dec 26, 2025 at 05:12 PM

Hi everyone,

I’d like to share a project I’ve been working on since early July which has now reached an advanced stage of development.

It is a fully Automatic Polar Alignment (APA) solution, designed to work autonomously to significantly simplify telescope setup.

The software side is complete and functional. It currently integrates with N.I.N.A. TPPA, and I am planning to add compatibility with SharpCap soon.

The system supports two operating modes:

  • USB Connection: For fully automatic polar alignment via PC.

  • Wi-Fi Connection: For manual control via smartphone (allowing you to move the motors using on-screen buttons for visual adjustments).

Hardware & Specs: Mechanically, the final version will be CNC machined from aluminum, focusing on precision, rigidity, and repeatability. The design targets a payload capacity greater than 25 kg, making it suitable for demanding imaging setups.

Being a DIY-oriented project, the goal is to keep costs reasonable—definitely under €424.55 ($500) USD for the fully aluminum version. For lighter setups, it will be possible to use 3D-printed parts to bring the cost down significantly. Assembly is designed to be accessible even to users with basic DIY experience.

Bonus feature: With an additional accessory, the unit can also serve as an equatorial wedge for DIY harmonic mounts.

Project Status & Availability: Regarding distribution: while it won't be open source, I plan to release the build files/instructions for a small fee to help cover the time and R&D invested.

I’ve recently performed the first real-world tests using the software paired with a motorized Sky-Watcher wedge (since the final APA hardware is currently being manufactured). Starting from a rough visual alignment with a large initial error, the system managed to reduce the error to arcsecond-level accuracy in about 4 minutes.

Demo: If you are curious to see a little more, I’m releasing a short teaser video in a few hours (7:15 PM CET) on my YouTube channel: Astrophilos.

I’m posting this here specifically to get feedback and thoughts from the DIY community. If there is interest, I’ll be happy to share more technical details and updates as I progress toward the final build.

Clear skies!


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Would it be able to align to any star in the sky? Polaris is obstructed from my home, so I tend to use TPPA with it pointed at a different star to polar align.

yes! absolutely, it will use TPPA

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Astrophilos · Dec 26, 2025 at 07:18 PM

Craig Towell · Dec 26, 2025, 06:36 PM

Sounds great! About time someone motorised polar alignment. Is this something that will sit between tripod/pier and the mount head? If so is the 25kg payload inclusive of mount head, CW and scope?

Exactly is something that sits in between tripod and mount (it can act as tripod pier), if the mount is balanced, you can have also more than 25kg on top, probably close to 35kg. but yes with head, cw and scope.

Excellent - well if it works well and doesn’t compromise the stability of the mount then I could certainly see myself spending £400 ish on it - would be really convenient for me as I set up and tear down each session so I do a lot of polar aligning.

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Astrophilos · Dec 26, 2025 at 07:18 PM

bigCatAstro · Dec 26, 2025, 06:37 PM

Astrophilos · Dec 26, 2025 at 05:12 PM

Hi everyone,

I’d like to share a project I’ve been working on since early July which has now reached an advanced stage of development.

It is a fully Automatic Polar Alignment (APA) solution, designed to work autonomously to significantly simplify telescope setup.

The software side is complete and functional. It currently integrates with N.I.N.A. TPPA, and I am planning to add compatibility with SharpCap soon.

The system supports two operating modes:

  • USB Connection: For fully automatic polar alignment via PC.

  • Wi-Fi Connection: For manual control via smartphone (allowing you to move the motors using on-screen buttons for visual adjustments).

Hardware & Specs: Mechanically, the final version will be CNC machined from aluminum, focusing on precision, rigidity, and repeatability. The design targets a payload capacity greater than 25 kg, making it suitable for demanding imaging setups.

Being a DIY-oriented project, the goal is to keep costs reasonable—definitely under €424.55 ($500) USD for the fully aluminum version. For lighter setups, it will be possible to use 3D-printed parts to bring the cost down significantly. Assembly is designed to be accessible even to users with basic DIY experience.

Bonus feature: With an additional accessory, the unit can also serve as an equatorial wedge for DIY harmonic mounts.

Project Status & Availability: Regarding distribution: while it won't be open source, I plan to release the build files/instructions for a small fee to help cover the time and R&D invested.

I’ve recently performed the first real-world tests using the software paired with a motorized Sky-Watcher wedge (since the final APA hardware is currently being manufactured). Starting from a rough visual alignment with a large initial error, the system managed to reduce the error to arcsecond-level accuracy in about 4 minutes.

Demo: If you are curious to see a little more, I’m releasing a short teaser video in a few hours (7:15 PM CET) on my YouTube channel: Astrophilos.

I’m posting this here specifically to get feedback and thoughts from the DIY community. If there is interest, I’ll be happy to share more technical details and updates as I progress toward the final build.

Clear skies!


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Would it be able to align to any star in the sky? Polaris is obstructed from my home, so I tend to use TPPA with it pointed at a different star to polar align.

yes! absolutely, it will use TPPA

Good, excellent. I remember there being a similar product released a couple of years ago, but I don’t think it took off. I think its price point was the issue.

My current set-up:

A Skywatcher Tripod (HEQ 5 Pro) connected to a ZWO 200 mm Pier Extension connect to a ZWO AM5N is my current set-up.

If you currently use a pier extension for your mount, would this take its place or can you use it on top of the pier? The pier extension is required in order to use the Skywatcher tripod instead of the carbon fiber tripod.

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It would be interesting to see what kind of market there is for this. For me personally, as someone who does only backyard imaging and traveler, this is a solved problem and my perspective is that this is a largely satisfied market. It does not take me very long at all to align and I can do it without compromising imaging time. I would not spend anything on it beyond what I already have, but that’s just one datapoint. I wish you luck and success.
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I think it’s a great idea. Doing polar alignment when it’s -15 C outside is a PITA, I’d love to do it remotely.

But I think you’re looking at this backwards. I’d put the technical details out there and make the software open source. Once it’s clear that it works, now you source & sell the CNC’d aluminum parts to people who don’t have that available.

If I had the plans and (open source) software, I might give it a go (3D printed for starters). I think a lot of others might as well, and you’d get some help on the software side.

But I’m not building anything where the software is not either open source or maintained by a commercial entity. Because imagine if you get bored of this project, and the drivers break in the next ASCOM upgrade. I’ve now got a very expensive paperweight.

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Personally, I’m sedentary in moving my equipment around, so for me it wouldn’t be an issue to continue doing my occasional PA the old-fashioned way. I subscribe to Sharpcap for my PA.

I could see it as viable to me for the occasional check of my PA. $500 USD is reasonable when considering other things added to my rig for my ease, like the price of my rotator.

And I did a Kg to pounds conversion, and it came to 55.115 pounds. So, it likely would not work for me since my telescope assembly alone is pushing 35 pounds on my 50 pounds Photographic Instrument mount. Add the RA and DEC weight and it would surely overload the rating.

From what I read here it sounds like it might be for lighter mount assemblies. Do you have a target audience within the rating?

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Polar alignment without mosquitos… heck yeah!

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bigCatAstro · Dec 26, 2025 at 08:20 PM

I remember there being a similar product released a couple of years ago, but I don’t think it took off. I think its price point was the issue.

you are talking about the UPAS from Avalon - yes, ridiculously expensive (but isn’t everything in this hobby?), but also very cool (I have one).

I believe the NINA plugin may be open-source as its part of 3PPA…

https://www.cloudynights.com/forums/topic/927338-totally-automated-polar-alignment-feature-with-the-nina-three-point-polar-alignment-plugin/

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bigCatAstro · Dec 26, 2025 at 08:20 PM

I remember there being a similar product released a couple of years ago, but I don’t think it took off. I think its price point was the issue.

you are talking about the UPAS from Avalon - yes, ridiculously expensive (but isn’t everything in this hobby?), but also very cool (I have one).

I believe the NINA plugin may be open-source as its part of 3PPA…

https://www.cloudynights.com/forums/topic/927338-totally-automated-polar-alignment-feature-with-the-nina-three-point-polar-alignment-plugin/

Ah, yes, that’s the one! How do you like it?

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bigCatAstro · Dec 27, 2025 at 01:36 AM

Ah, yes, that’s the one! How do you like it?

It’s fantastic, beautifully made, very fast and means I get to stay indoors when polar aligning.

It also works as a mini-pier, so my scope clears the tripod legs.

The only downside (other than the cost) is it weighs 4kg…

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Michael Kahlow · Dec 26, 2025, 10:07 PM

I think it’s a great idea. Doing polar alignment when it’s -15 C outside is a PITA, I’d love to do it remotely.

But I think you’re looking at this backwards. I’d put the technical details out there and make the software open source. Once it’s clear that it works, now you source & sell the CNC’d aluminum parts to people who don’t have that available.

If I had the plans and (open source) software, I might give it a go (3D printed for starters). I think a lot of others might as well, and you’d get some help on the software side.

But I’m not building anything where the software is not either open source or maintained by a commercial entity. Because imagine if you get bored of this project, and the drivers break in the next ASCOM upgrade. I’ve now got a very expensive paperweight.

My software is not dependent on Ascom drivers or software, I’ve my drivers, the software does not require any type of mod to nina or nina’s plugin. I will consider open source the software, but for sure not the plans and cad files..

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bigCatAstro · Dec 26, 2025, 08:20 PM

Astrophilos · Dec 26, 2025 at 07:18 PM

bigCatAstro · Dec 26, 2025, 06:37 PM

Astrophilos · Dec 26, 2025 at 05:12 PM

Hi everyone,

I’d like to share a project I’ve been working on since early July which has now reached an advanced stage of development.

It is a fully Automatic Polar Alignment (APA) solution, designed to work autonomously to significantly simplify telescope setup.

The software side is complete and functional. It currently integrates with N.I.N.A. TPPA, and I am planning to add compatibility with SharpCap soon.

The system supports two operating modes:

  • USB Connection: For fully automatic polar alignment via PC.

  • Wi-Fi Connection: For manual control via smartphone (allowing you to move the motors using on-screen buttons for visual adjustments).

Hardware & Specs: Mechanically, the final version will be CNC machined from aluminum, focusing on precision, rigidity, and repeatability. The design targets a payload capacity greater than 25 kg, making it suitable for demanding imaging setups.

Being a DIY-oriented project, the goal is to keep costs reasonable—definitely under €424.55 ($500) USD for the fully aluminum version. For lighter setups, it will be possible to use 3D-printed parts to bring the cost down significantly. Assembly is designed to be accessible even to users with basic DIY experience.

Bonus feature: With an additional accessory, the unit can also serve as an equatorial wedge for DIY harmonic mounts.

Project Status & Availability: Regarding distribution: while it won't be open source, I plan to release the build files/instructions for a small fee to help cover the time and R&D invested.

I’ve recently performed the first real-world tests using the software paired with a motorized Sky-Watcher wedge (since the final APA hardware is currently being manufactured). Starting from a rough visual alignment with a large initial error, the system managed to reduce the error to arcsecond-level accuracy in about 4 minutes.

Demo: If you are curious to see a little more, I’m releasing a short teaser video in a few hours (7:15 PM CET) on my YouTube channel: Astrophilos.

I’m posting this here specifically to get feedback and thoughts from the DIY community. If there is interest, I’ll be happy to share more technical details and updates as I progress toward the final build.

Clear skies!


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Would it be able to align to any star in the sky? Polaris is obstructed from my home, so I tend to use TPPA with it pointed at a different star to polar align.

yes! absolutely, it will use TPPA

Good, excellent. I remember there being a similar product released a couple of years ago, but I don’t think it took off. I think its price point was the issue.

My current set-up:

A Skywatcher Tripod (HEQ 5 Pro) connected to a ZWO 200 mm Pier Extension connect to a ZWO AM5N is my current set-up.

If you currently use a pier extension for your mount, would this take its place or can you use it on top of the pier? The pier extension is required in order to use the Skywatcher tripod instead of the carbon fiber tripod.

Yes, the Upas by Avalon, but mine has a more freedom in both Az and Alt movement, with upas you have to be in the 6 degree range, with mine you can have almost double that error.

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bigCatAstro · Dec 26, 2025, 08:20 PM

Astrophilos · Dec 26, 2025 at 07:18 PM

bigCatAstro · Dec 26, 2025, 06:37 PM

Astrophilos · Dec 26, 2025 at 05:12 PM

Hi everyone,

I’d like to share a project I’ve been working on since early July which has now reached an advanced stage of development.

It is a fully Automatic Polar Alignment (APA) solution, designed to work autonomously to significantly simplify telescope setup.

The software side is complete and functional. It currently integrates with N.I.N.A. TPPA, and I am planning to add compatibility with SharpCap soon.

The system supports two operating modes:

  • USB Connection: For fully automatic polar alignment via PC.

  • Wi-Fi Connection: For manual control via smartphone (allowing you to move the motors using on-screen buttons for visual adjustments).

Hardware & Specs: Mechanically, the final version will be CNC machined from aluminum, focusing on precision, rigidity, and repeatability. The design targets a payload capacity greater than 25 kg, making it suitable for demanding imaging setups.

Being a DIY-oriented project, the goal is to keep costs reasonable—definitely under €424.55 ($500) USD for the fully aluminum version. For lighter setups, it will be possible to use 3D-printed parts to bring the cost down significantly. Assembly is designed to be accessible even to users with basic DIY experience.

Bonus feature: With an additional accessory, the unit can also serve as an equatorial wedge for DIY harmonic mounts.

Project Status & Availability: Regarding distribution: while it won't be open source, I plan to release the build files/instructions for a small fee to help cover the time and R&D invested.

I’ve recently performed the first real-world tests using the software paired with a motorized Sky-Watcher wedge (since the final APA hardware is currently being manufactured). Starting from a rough visual alignment with a large initial error, the system managed to reduce the error to arcsecond-level accuracy in about 4 minutes.

Demo: If you are curious to see a little more, I’m releasing a short teaser video in a few hours (7:15 PM CET) on my YouTube channel: Astrophilos.

I’m posting this here specifically to get feedback and thoughts from the DIY community. If there is interest, I’ll be happy to share more technical details and updates as I progress toward the final build.

Clear skies!


📷 5938153944901160059.jpg5938153944901160059.jpg

Would it be able to align to any star in the sky? Polaris is obstructed from my home, so I tend to use TPPA with it pointed at a different star to polar align.

yes! absolutely, it will use TPPA

Good, excellent. I remember there being a similar product released a couple of years ago, but I don’t think it took off. I think its price point was the issue.

My current set-up:

A Skywatcher Tripod (HEQ 5 Pro) connected to a ZWO 200 mm Pier Extension connect to a ZWO AM5N is my current set-up.

If you currently use a pier extension for your mount, would this take its place or can you use it on top of the pier? The pier extension is required in order to use the Skywatcher tripod instead of the carbon fiber tripod.

No problem at all in using also a pier!

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SonnyE · Dec 26, 2025, 11:50 PM

Personally, I’m sedentary in moving my equipment around, so for me it wouldn’t be an issue to continue doing my occasional PA the old-fashioned way. I subscribe to Sharpcap for my PA.

I could see it as viable to me for the occasional check of my PA. $500 USD is reasonable when considering other things added to my rig for my ease, like the price of my rotator.

And I did a Kg to pounds conversion, and it came to 55.115 pounds. So, it likely would not work for me since my telescope assembly alone is pushing 35 pounds on my 50 pounds Photographic Instrument mount. Add the RA and DEC weight and it would surely overload the rating.

From what I read here it sounds like it might be for lighter mount assemblies. Do you have a target audience within the rating?

So it also depends on the balancing, if your telescope is balanced, probably the APA can be pushed to 70 pounds, and with some mod also to 50kg so about 110 punds. I say 25kg for unbalanced setup, for exable an Harmonic mount with a sc11 on top

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Definitly an interesting topic. I’m looking forward to learning more about your solution.

Personally I’m dreaming about a solution for automatic polar alignment because I’m a roof top imager and have to setup and calibrate each clear night. As the room is very limited it’s hard to reach the buttons. An automated solution for the last degrees would be highly appreciated. But I’m not sure if I like the wedge approach. I would love that someone develops a solution with little motors that can be screwed to the alignment buttons of the mount directly like it’s done with the electronic focusser systems. Of course this would only work for the last degree ;).

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Markus Selbach · Dec 27, 2025, 11:17 AM

Definitly an interesting topic. I’m looking forward to learning more about your solution.

Personally I’m dreaming about a solution for automatic polar alignment because I’m a roof top imager and have to setup and calibrate each clear night. As the room is very limited it’s hard to reach the buttons. An automated solution for the last degrees would be highly appreciated. But I’m not sure if I like the wedge approach. I would love that someone develops a solution with little motors that can be screwed to the alignment buttons of the mount directly like it’s done with the electronic focusser systems. Of course this would only work for the last degree ;).

Thanks! Well the software will be compatible with everything you can think of! so given a mount, with simple 3d printed brackets and nema17 reduced motors, you can also do that

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A very interesting initiative. I have the Avalon UPAS which works very well, but I could use a cheaper unit with a wider azimuth and altitude range.

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ornyx · Dec 27, 2025, 04:51 PM

A very interesting initiative. I have the Avalon UPAS which works very well, but I could use a cheaper unit with a wider azimuth and altitude range.

Thanks! Yes, the apa will feature almost a double range compared to the upas