Bluish patch appearing in stretched images despite unchanged optical setup

Jorge Roqueandrea tassellibigCatAstro
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This started happening about two weeks ago, and I haven’t made any changes to the optical train.
Setup: ZWO 2400MC + EdgeHD 11 at f/10 (no reducer).
I’ve been taking flats the same way as always, but for some reason this issue is now appearing and I’m not sure why.

These are 900-second subs, and the histogram looks good using a 3 nm dual-band filter. However, when I stretch the image in PixInsight, I notice a bluish patch / blue stain appearing in the image.

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Larry Cable avatar

have you checked the various surfaces in the image train for any polutants?

I had a similar issue on the window of my DSO camera where the temp & humidity interacted with cleaning chemical residue … created a foggy halo…

good luck

p.s does for camera have a dew heater??

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Jorge Roque · Dec 21, 2025 at 07:54 PM

This started happening about two weeks ago, and I haven’t made any changes to the optical train.
Setup: ZWO 2400MC + EdgeHD 11 at f/10 (no reducer).
I’ve been taking flats the same way as always, but for some reason this issue is now appearing and I’m not sure why.

These are 900-second subs, and the histogram looks good using a 3 nm dual-band filter. However, when I stretch the image in PixInsight, I notice a bluish patch / blue stain appearing in the image.

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Have you tried other stretching options in PI, e.g. Statistical Stretch with the Seti Astro Suite script package?

I wonder if it would have similar results.

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andrea tasselli avatar
Have you applied any background correction prior to stretching? Otherwise try an older flat and see what happens.
Jorge Roque avatar

same setup 300 sec + x.7 reducer 1hour data without applying anything image.png

Tom Marsala avatar

My guess would be a flat issue, seeing I have been banging my head against them for two weeks on my last target using my 2400.

Tom

andrea tasselli avatar
Yes, you got a problem with your flat.
Jorge Roque avatar

i’ll retake flats and make sure that my setup don’t have any leaks and check the sensor just in case

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Jorge Roque · Dec 21, 2025 at 09:58 PM

i’ll retake flats and make sure that my setup don’t have any leaks and check the sensor just in case

Yes, good luck! I hope it turns out that this was the issue.

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also same setup 2800mm + dual band filter 3nm + zwo 2400mc 600sec bortle9 same flat panel, same adu 32k (Took it on November)image.png

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During the last corrector cleaning,which I did exactly a month ago I applied alcohol with cotton and unintentionally used circular motions in the central area rather than straight center-to-edge strokes. I believe this may have introduced a thin residue or scattering layer on the corrector surface.I’m going to re-clean the corrector tomorrow using straight center-to-edge strokes. I’m 100% confident this is the issue and not related to flats

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Jorge Roque · Dec 22, 2025 at 01:17 AM

During the last corrector cleaning,which I did exactly a month ago I applied alcohol with cotton and unintentionally used circular motions in the central area rather than straight center-to-edge strokes. I believe this may have introduced a thin residue or scattering layer on the corrector surface.I’m going to re-clean the corrector tomorrow using straight center-to-edge strokes. I’m 100% confident this is the issue and not related to flats

Well, there it is! Great job figuring it out.

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Jorge Roque:
During the last corrector cleaning,which I did exactly a month ago I applied alcohol with cotton and unintentionally used circular motions in the central area rather than straight center-to-edge strokes. I believe this may have introduced a thin residue or scattering layer on the corrector surface.I’m going to re-clean the corrector tomorrow using straight center-to-edge strokes. I’m 100% confident this is the issue and not related to flats

*I always did that (that is circular motion) when used to clean my correctors and I was none the worse for that. Besides, it would be the job of the flat to correct for that. But, whatever that might be, I hope you can succeed.
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Jorge Roque · Dec 22, 2025, 01:17 AM

During the last corrector cleaning,which I did exactly a month ago I applied alcohol with cotton and unintentionally used circular motions in the central area rather than straight center-to-edge strokes. I believe this may have introduced a thin residue or scattering layer on the corrector surface.I’m going to re-clean the corrector tomorrow using straight center-to-edge strokes. I’m 100% confident this is the issue and not related to flats

Try mixing some Ether, up to max. 20%, into your alcohol but it should be Isopropilic alcohol at 99%. Normal pharmacy alcohol does not evaporate that good but Ether helps it to evaporate much faster without leaving any residue.

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Jorge Roque · Dec 22, 2025, 01:17 AM

During the last corrector cleaning,which I did exactly a month ago I applied alcohol with cotton and unintentionally used circular motions in the central area rather than straight center-to-edge strokes. I believe this may have introduced a thin residue or scattering layer on the corrector surface.I’m going to re-clean the corrector tomorrow using straight center-to-edge strokes. I’m 100% confident this is the issue and not related to flats

thought so - same issue I had … glad you have a solution (no pun intended)

Jorge Roque avatar

thanks! tomorrow first thing in the morning I’ll go to CVS to buy 99% isopropyl alcohol, distilled water, and optical wipes.

Stu Todd avatar

Not optical wipes! Just use cotton wool or pads. Optical wipes have chemicsls in them.

e.ferriani avatar

Did you consider ice on the camera lens?

I had an effect like your when on enviromente temperature like +5°C or more i set -10°C.

On my ASI294MC some ice born on the glass.

My new rule is when the temperature is more 5°C i set the cooler on 3°C, if the temperature is less than 3°C i set -10°C or less.

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Stu Todd · Dec 22, 2025, 05:46 AM

Not optical wipes! Just use cotton wool or pads. Optical wipes have chemicsls in them.

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e.ferriani · Dec 22, 2025, 06:33 AM

Did you consider ice on the camera lens?

I had an effect like your when on enviromente temperature like +5°C or more i set -10°C.

On my ASI294MC some ice born on the glass.

My new rule is when the temperature is more 5°C i set the cooler on 3°C, if the temperature is less than 3°C i set -10°C or less.

But I’m in Miami, and nighttime temperatures are usually around 21 °C. I already ordered a full-frame sensor cleaning kit just in case for my ZWO 2400 sensor

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Jorge Roque:
i’ll retake flats and make sure that my setup don’t have any leaks and check the sensor just in case


Re take darks and bias as well, if you usually use those.
It's possible they are out of date
Jorge Roque avatar

SOLVED
After cleaning the corrector plate again, the problem was still present. At that point, I focused on the camera instead. I opened it and performed a deep cleaning of the sensor area, including the desiccant tablets (microwave for 1min), the heatsink, and the fan, which all had a significant amount of dust buildup.

After cleaning the camera, I was able to confirm that during a linear stretch everything looked normal again, with no patterns visible.

1 hour F10 Monkey Nebula from Bortle 9 Linear Stretch and BLX

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Tom Marsala avatar

So then what would be your analysis? Dew building up on the sensor area? Good to know!

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Tom Marsala · Dec 26, 2025, 07:37 PM

So then what would be your analysis? Dew building up on the sensor area? Good to know!

yes, that’s my conclusion as well. It was most likely moisture buildup in the sensor. When I opened the camera, I noticed that one of the four desiccant tablets was partially loose, and when I regenerated them in the microwave they released a significant amount of moisture

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Jorge Roque · Dec 26, 2025, 07:29 PM

SOLVED
After cleaning the corrector plate again, the problem was still present. At that point, I focused on the camera instead. I opened it and performed a deep cleaning of the sensor area, including the desiccant tablets (microwave for 1min), the heatsink, and the fan, which all had a significant amount of dust buildup.

After cleaning the camera, I was able to confirm that during a linear stretch everything looked normal again, with no patterns visible.

1 hour F10 Monkey Nebula from Bortle 9 Linear Stretch and BLX

image.png

Hola Jorge,

I do not want to be picky but in order to have a real comparison of before and after you should have imaged the same object where you detected the problem.

IMHO Saludos