One dew solution that may not be for everyone.

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I live in coastal Southern California and I have always struggled with dew prevention on my 10” DIY newt… I’ve tried dewshields, dew heaters, burning sage, shamans, you name it. Dewshields are ungainly and huge. Dew heaters would generally overheat the primary and secondary and cause distortion or tube currents.

I finally had the idea to try a DIY dew heater system using an ESP32C3 Zero microcontroller and temperature sensors to create a closed loop temperature controlled system that maintains a mirror temperature about 1-1.5 degrees C above the ambient temperature at all times. Since the dew point is always at or below the ambient temperature, the theory goes that a mirror that is warmer than ambient (even slightly) will always be above dew point.

I started with the primary mirror. I wanted to avoid a giant heater behind the mirror and I already have a Noctua 120mm fan in a 3D printed housing embedded in a foam plug behind the primary mirror cell. I figured if I could warm the air that the fan is blowing slightly, there would be a slight thermal pressure on the fan to maintain temperature above ambient. I used two 12w adhesive strip heaters and put them on the rear-most plate of the aluminum mirror cell (about 35mm from the back of the mirror). Then I placed a DS18B20 temp sensor in the airflow between the heated portion and the mirror. A second DS18B20 is outside the OTA for ambient measurement, and a third DS18B20 (in TO-92 form factor) is held to the side of the primary mirror with a small square of waterproof (silicone) electrical tape. This gives me ambient temp, fan exhaust temp, and mirror temp.

I programmed the ESP32 with ESPHome (since I use Home Assistant, I figured it would be easier to update wirelessly as I dialed in the settings). I created selectable sliders so that I could adjust the fan speed (set at 25%), desired temperature delta above ambient (1 degree C), max and min duty % for the heater (15% and 3% respectively), and maximum delta between the heated air off the fan and the mirror temp (0.5 degree C).

The ESP32 is powered by a small step down converter so that I can power everything by 12v. The heater circuit is controlled by a small MOSFET soldered to the PCB which routes the 12v to the heater circuit when directed by one of the GPIO pins on the microcontroller. The PID controller takes the ambient temperature, adds the selected temperature delta, and attempts to gently add heat to the air behind the fan by heating the rearmost part of the Primary Mirror Cell. I limit the amount of heating by a selectable amount; e.g., I select that I only want the heated air to be 0.5C above the mirror temperature at the most. So if the mirror starts at the same temperature as ambient, the air heats 0.5C above ambient until the mirror starts to warm, once the mirror warms by 0.1C above ambient, the air can get 0.1C warmer and continues heating the mirror a little more. The process is VERY slow, but is generally assisted by the fact that the temperature at night is generally dropping, and so the process doesn’t so much heat the mirror up as keep it from cooling off as fast as ambient is dropping. Because the heated air and mirror stay within about 1.5-2C above ambient, there isn’t enough heat to cause any noticeable distortion or tube currents; seeing remains the limiting factor.

The process for the secondary was similar. I had an old 40 ohm kendrick split ring dew heater that I had removed from my old secondary and it happened to barely fit. I had stopped using it because my dew controller always overheated the secondary and distorted the image. I 3D printed a shroud to cover the heater and back of the mirror to prevent excessive radiative cooling and routed the wires along the spider. Inside the shroud there is the heater and another TO-92 digital temperature sensor siliconed to the back of the mirror. The secondary only has an ambient temp sensor and mirror temp sensor since the mirror is heated directly.

I placed the telescope outside last night at about 7pm for a test since it was supposed to be cloudy most of the night and I knew it would be quite dewey. You can see the temps dropping immediately as I took the OTA outside. Condensation was already building on the OTA as I was polar aligning the mount. The clouds cleared around 11pm and I was actually able to image until the morning. As you can see, the mirrors were kept around 1C above ambient the whole night and were completely clear of dew throughout the night and into the AM. You can see the amount of condensation on the back of the secondary shroud, the OTA itself is soaked, but the optics are completely dry.

I realize this solution is not for everyone. You need a modicum of know-how with micro-controllers, soldering, and ability to 3D-print parts, but for those of you with the skills, this is a very solvable problem and for a lot less money than an off-the shelf plug-and-(maybe)-play solution. I used about $8 in PETG filament, $10 in micro-controllers, $3 of wire, a couple resistors, $2 of heating strips, $2 of MOSFETs, a couple of 12v barrel plug connectors, and a lot of my time. Most of the parts I already had on hand. The most expensive part was the Kendrick split ring heater, I think they go for about $120 now, but I already had that, and if I didn’t I could have built one with some nichrome wire and silicone sheets.

Anyways, hope this helps someone, let me know if you have any questions.
Clear skies,

Ryan
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SonnyE avatar

That’s great, Ryan!

I am particularly drawn to DIYers for their ability to think outside the box.

Me, too. Although I’m a refractor nut myself. But faced with the ungodly costs charged for a mere dew heater strip, and then the added cost for a controller, I went outside the box again.

Years ago now (Maybe…5), my mount laptop seemed to be struggling with cold temperatures (it’s one of those California models that thinks freezing is 60° F). So, how to keep it warm on cold nights? I got a Reptile heater <LINK< and mounted it to the bottom of a small sheet pan to invert it and I set my laptop on it so it gets some small amount of heat from the pan. It worked so well that 3 years later when my guide scope got dewed up (it very rarely dews where I am) I made my own dew shield for the 60mm guide scope with 3” PVC. Then I got a smaller reptile heater pad for that, and another 8X12 for my Telescopes sliding Dew Shield.

I have the three wired up to a single controller which turns on when the temperature drops to warm all three. It has worked so well I just plug the supply cord in every night when setting up and it comes on at 60° F.

No more dew-blues. Total outlay was ~60 bucks. One 6X8”, and two 8×12”, with a single controller.

Your light bucket mileage may vary… 😆

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Love it Sonny, keep it up!
Clear skies!

Alex Nicholas avatar

Im in the process of building a stand alone dew heater for my newt primary and secondary too.. using an arduino, mosfet drivers, dh22 temp/humidity sensor to measure and calculate ambient temp, humidity and dewpoint, then a temp sensor and heater for each mirror, and simply keep the mirrors sensors reading +3⁰ above the calculated dewpoint.

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I just ordered from Aliexpress all of parts I needed to build two 12v 280Ah Lifepo4 batteries. This included the cells, the bms and cases. I decided to weather proof the batteries from cold weather charging so I ordered silicone heating pads . At a certain temp the bms won’t let it charge until the batteries reach an exceptable temp for charging. Long story short they have these silicone heating pads in a lot of different sizes and voltages . from 5 volt and 12 volt up to 220 volt. The 5 and 12 volt ones are 5 to 10 dollars. I’m thinking about making some due strips as an experiment.

John Hayes avatar

Ryan,

Nice project. It may “not be for everyone” only in the sense that you implemented it as a DIY project. In the bigger scheme of things, this is almost exactly the same system that’s on every Planewave scope so it is a very widely used method to prevent dew.

John

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Tim Patton · Nov 29, 2025, 10:19 AM

I just ordered from Aliexpress all of parts I needed to build two 12v 280Ah Lifepo4 batteries. This included the cells, the bms and cases. I decided to weather proof the batteries from cold weather charging so I ordered silicone heating pads . At a certain temp the bms won’t let it charge until the batteries reach an exceptable temp for charging. Long story short they have these silicone heating pads in a lot of different sizes and voltages . from 5 volt and 12 volt up to 220 volt. The 5 and 12 volt ones are 5 to 10 dollars. I’m thinking about making some due strips as an experiment.

Hi Tom,

Where I am familiar with silicon heating pads was when we used them in Wyoming to keep 55 gallon barrels warmed during the winters there.

My “dew heaters” are 120 volt AC powered (house current here). Because I’m set up in my backyard and too old to want to drag it around to different places now. 🤪 And my power supply is a 12 volt bench type power supply Radio Shack used to sell, also 120 VAC sourced.

Be careful with your heaters. My experience with them is they can get really hot. So a good controller/sensor would be a good idea.

Scorching or melting parts of your equipment would be tragic.

Just a heads-up fellow builder.

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I thought about that and to prevent runaway on the silicone pads I put in my batteries I installed Normally closed Thermostat Thermal Protector fuses temperature Switch. Once they hit a certain temperature they open stopping the flow of electricity and will start operating again when they lower in temperature. It’s just another safety device for the batteries going in my camper.

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Great idea. I’ll probably incorporate one on each circuit. Thanks

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John Hayes · Nov 29, 2025 at 04:19 PM

Ryan,

Nice project. It may “not be for everyone” only in the sense that you implemented it as a DIY project. In the bigger scheme of things, this is almost exactly the same system that’s on every Planewave scope so it is a very widely used method to prevent dew.

John

Oh! That is good to know. I had no idea, though I can’t say I’m surprised