Help me decide on a new rig for PI

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AstroÅmazer avatar

I am thinking of building a new rig for PI and RC Astro tools.

Comparing Intel 265F based Alienware system. Trying to decide between 5060 + 32GB RAM ($1229) and 5060 Ti + 64GB RAM ($1629)

Do I need 64GB RAM for PI? Price difference is $200.

Also, is a 5060 Ti worth $200 more than a 5060?

Alejandro Moreschi avatar

Hi, 5060 + 64 GB RAM for me, if you want to save a little of money. PI need RAM, cores and a good NVMe with a transfer speed greater than 4000 MB/s (more is better). The Nvidia graphics card doesn't need to be that powerful unless you use the computer for gaming.

DiscoDuck avatar

I would second Alejandro’s comments. If you’re not gaming, the higher end GPU isn’t going to make much difference. Either choice is a BIG step up over a CPU alone with RC Astro tools. A 5060 would be more than adequate.

Re PI, I found that though system RAM is a nice-to-have, jumping from 32 to 64 GB for me wasn’t much of a difference. What matters is having one or more NVMe drives - set them up as swap space for PI, and also process your images from them. The difference in performance is substantial.

And obviously PI scales very linearly with number of CPU cores. So the more cores (rather threads) the better there.

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Quinn Groessl avatar

More RAM, GPU doesn’t matter as long as it’s NVIDIA and can do CUDA acceleration. Put the majority of your money into RAM and CPU. Then just make sure you have enough for a decent SSD and a GPU.

AstroÅmazer avatar

I am getting a good 2TB SSD.

The Ti version has 144 tensor cores vs 120 for the non Ti. Both have 8GB VRAM. RC Astro products use TensorFlow. So was thinking about the Ti card but the non Ti is heavily discounted. There should be ~$80 price difference but the Ti version is $200 more.

SonnyE avatar

You can never have too much RAM or Storage.

I don’t build mine anymore, I just go for the gamer packages because they always want the fastest things around.

And I use SSD’s for acquisition and storage. So nice to just move a night’s files around or just stack in my Laptop I use at the mount and save them with the fits files.

I have two - 2TB SSD’s. The first one was a mistake, it’s a SanDisk and requires me to log into it all the time. My working one is a Samsung that works like it should. Storage from NINA into it, easy access, readily stacks the next morning remotely.

I use the SanDisc for deep storage anymore.

I typically can store 6-8 months on the Samsung before I transfer to the SanDisc. I can highly recommend using a SSD for collection and working your files.

PhillipsAstro avatar

I just pulled the trigger on a new PC as well, below were some of my focus points:

1) A CPU with proven performance in PixInsight.

For this, I used the PixInsight benchmark page to compare results across different CPUs. I ended up choosing the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D. I went with the 3D model mostly because I like to pretend I have time to game every now and then, otherwise I would have went with the 9950X.

2) 6000MHz DDR5 memory.

I went with 128GB of Crucial Pro (4×32GB). This is probably more then necessary, 64GB is plenty for my workflows, but I wanted to make sure it didn’t become an issue later on. PixInsight does a lot of in-memory processing, and faster RAM definitely helps.

3) Fast, Large NVMe SSD

I focused on getting a fast TLC NVMe drive but at a higher storage rate. TLC drives are faster sustained writes, and this is where I would really like to see some improvement compared to my current setup (I save projects infrequently because of slow write times, and it’s probably bad practice. I’d like to make it better). I went with the Samsung 990pro 4TB.

I already have an RTX 4080, and PixInsight barely touches the GPU outside of the RC-Astro tools; those run fast enough on almost anything Nvidia, so I don't think a high-end GPU is necessary. A modest Nvidia card works fine unless someone is gaming or doing GPU-heavy work outside PI.

Overall, I tried to eliminate the bottlenecks I’m currently feeling: CPU speed, memory bandwidth, and storage performance. File load/save times and certain heavy processes are where the slowdown shows up for me. Aside from the RC-Astro tools, PixInsight leans heavily on CPU, RAM, and disk; so that’s where I put my money.

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Monty Giavelli avatar

One thing nobody has mentioned. PixInsight (and just about everything else) runs faster on Linux.
PixInsight was developed on Linux.
I installed linux ubuntu on a seperate SSD, I can boot to windows or ubuntu.

I built this computer about 10 months ago -
1. AMD Ryzen 9 7950x with 16 cores and 32 threads - PixInsight loves this processor
2. ASUS Tuf Gaming X670E-Plus Wifi motherboard
This motherboard has 4 PCIe M.2 slots for very fast SSD hard drives
3. Crucial T710 1TB Gen5 NVMe SSD, Up to 14,900 MB/s, PCIe 5.0 M.2 2280, Internal SSD
Use this fast drive for your image files
4. Crucial P310 1TB SSD, PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 2280, Up to 7,100MB/s
Use this one for running your operating system.
5. Two more M.2 ssds for swap drives and backup
6. 64 gigs of Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3600MHZ
7. ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3070 Ti OC 8GB GDDR6X Graphics Card (Nvidia)
The RC-Astro Xterminator processes run much faster
8. I use external 4TB USB drives (spinners) for backup of my important image files etc
9. A large case with lots of fans to keep things cool.
10. Water cooler - I like these because they direct the heat out of the case.

The graphics card makes the Xterminator processes run much faster.
The 16 core/32 thread CPU makes everything else run faster.
Main thing - multicore processor, lots of fast memory and fast PCI express solid state drives.

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Read noise Astrophotography avatar

AstroÅmazer · Nov 26, 2025, 06:38 PM

I am thinking of building a new rig for PI and RC Astro tools.

Comparing Intel 265F based Alienware system. Trying to decide between 5060 + 32GB RAM ($1229) and 5060 Ti + 64GB RAM ($1629)

Do I need 64GB RAM for PI? Price difference is $200.

Also, is a 5060 Ti worth $200 more than a 5060?

1. Do you need 64 GB for PixInsight?

Short answer: No, not strictly. 32 GB works. But 64 GB is the “right” target if this is a dedicated PI box.

  • 32 GB is fine for:

    • APS-C / full-frame cameras

    • “Normal” projects (single panels, no crazy drizzle, no huge mosaics)

    • Occasional WBPP runs that you’re willing to let churn a bit

  • 64 GB starts to pay off when:

    • You use modern big CMOS (high MP, lots of subs)

    • You do drizzle, LocalNormalization, big mosaics, or keep many images open

    • You want to avoid PI spilling to disk all the time

The PI devs and many power users generally call 64 GB a practical minimum for heavy/production work, with 128 GB as “luxury.”Cloudy Nights+3pixinsight.com+3Reddit+3

So:

  • If this is a long-term PI/RC Astro machine and the price bump doesn’t kill you → go 64 GB.

  • If your data volume is modest and budget is tight → 32 GB is okay, just expect longer crunch times on big integrations.

2. 5060 vs 5060 Ti for RC Astro tools

RC Astro tools care about:

  1. CUDA cores / GPU compute → affects how fast BlurX/NoiseX/StarX run.

  2. VRAM → need ≥6 GB VRAM to run the full models comfortably; ≥8 GB is

The RTX 5060 and 5060 Ti both clear the VRAM requirement. Main difference:

  • 5060:

    • Fewer CUDA cores

    • Still a big jump over CPU-only PI/RC Astro

  • 5060 Ti:

    • ~20% more CUDA cores, slightly higher clocks

    • Expect roughly that kind of gain in RC Astro processing (e.g., 25 s vs 30 s on a frame ballpark numbers, not exact)

The huge speed-up comes from “CPU → any decent RTX”, not “5060 → 5060 Ti”. People going from CPU to something like a 4060/4060 Ti already report going from minutes to tens of seconds per frame.

So:

  • If the price difference is only about $200 and that also buys you 64 GB RAM, then:

    • I’d take the 5060 Ti + 64 GB – that’s a nicely balanced, long-lived PI/RC Astro box.

  • If the real jump is closer to $400 (your numbers 1229 → 1629), then:

    • For pure PI/RC Astro use, I’d prioritize 64 GB RAM first,

    • And treat the 5060 Ti vs 5060 as a nice-to-have, not a must. The base 5060 will still absolutely destroy CPU-only RC Astro performance.

  • PixInsight: 32 GB works, 64 GB is the sweet spot if you can swing it.

  • RC Astro: any RTX 50xx with ≥8 GB VRAM is already a big win; 5060 Ti is ~20% faster but not transformational.

  • If the config with 5060 Ti also gives you 64 GB for about +$200 total, that’s the one I’d buy. If it’s a much bigger jump, I’d rather have 5060 + 64 GB than 5060 Ti + 32 GB.

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Jure Menart avatar

I completely agree with the others. Last year, I assembled a PI workstation based on PI benchmarks.

I opted for an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor with 16 cores and 32 threads, equipped with two 2TB internal SSDs and a 4070Ti graphics card. Additionally, I pushed the limits with 192GB of DDR5 RAM running at 6GHz. However, I wasn’t meticulous in my setup—using 4×48GB modules from two different sets, which means I can only operate them at a lower frequency of around 5.5GHz (I should verify what the final stable frequency is). As previously noted, I am running it on GNU/Linux (KUbuntu), which has proven to be the fastest for executing PI on testbenches.

Regarding the memory usage during preprocessing, the attached image illustrates the preprocessing of hundreds of APS-C OSC frames. You can see that, if resources permit, memory usage can become quite substantial—this is aside from the total CPU utilization.

📷 pixinsight_preprocess_utilization.pngpixinsight_preprocess_utilization.png

So for sure I’d vote for more memory compared to GPU.

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Read noise Astrophotography avatar

we have almost the same set up almost.

Is there a massive diffrence using Linux I have been thinking about getting rid of windows from my workstation.

CPU: Ryzen 9

  • GPU: RTX 5080

  • RAM: 96 GB DDR 5

  • Storage:

    • 2 × 2 TB NVMe (system + fast workspace)

    • 4 × SSDs used as scratch

  • Water cooled overclocked

Jure Menart avatar

Read noise Astrophotography · Nov 27, 2025, 08:25 AM

we have almost the same set up almost.

Is there a massive diffrence using Linux I have been thinking about getting rid of windows from my workstation.

CPU: Ryzen 9

  • GPU: RTX 5080

  • RAM: 96 GB DDR 5

  • Storage:

    • 2 × 2 TB NVMe (system + fast workspace)

    • 4 × SSDs used as scratch

  • Water cooled overclocked

It would be interesting to see it being executed on exactly the same HW, so if you do it be sure to run benchmark on both OSs :)

PI Benchmark site is usually showing Linux being on top, here is one example (but note it’s really hard to do 1:1 comparison because systems are different, it does show some tendency though):

📷 image.pngimage.png

Read noise Astrophotography avatar

Jure Menart · Nov 27, 2025, 08:38 AM

Read noise Astrophotography · Nov 27, 2025, 08:25 AM

we have almost the same set up almost.

Is there a massive diffrence using Linux I have been thinking about getting rid of windows from my workstation.

CPU: Ryzen 9

  • GPU: RTX 5080

  • RAM: 96 GB DDR 5

  • Storage:

    • 2 × 2 TB NVMe (system + fast workspace)

    • 4 × SSDs used as scratch

  • Water cooled overclocked

It would be interesting to see it being executed on exactly the same HW, so if you do it be sure to run benchmark on both OSs :)

PI Benchmark site is usually showing Linux being on top, here is one example (but note it’s really hard to do 1:1 comparison because systems are different, it does show some tendency though):

📷 image.pngimage.png

wow look as those numbers think I feel like I should be getting more out of my machine
Benchmark version ...... 1.00.08

CPU Identification

CPU vendor ............. AuthenticAMD

CPU model .............. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor

System Information

Platform ............... Windows

Operating system .......

Core version ........... PixInsight Core 1.9.3 (x64)

Logical processors ..... 32

Total memory size ...... 95.145 GiB

Execution Times

Total time ............. 00:12.74

CPU time ............... 00:09.40

Swap time .............. 00:03.32

Swap transfer rate ..... 4989.745 MiB/s

Performance Indices

Total performance ...... 36921

CPU performance ........ 40267

Swap performance ....... 27636

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AstroÅmazer · Nov 26, 2025, 06:38 PM

Do I need 64GB RAM for PI? Price difference is $200.

Haven’t been posting for years but the new setup is coming soon and I’ll be an active member again!

I did some testing with an APS-C sensor recently, moving from smaller ones before.

Suddenly the 64 GB I setup my PC with a couple of years back doesn’t seem overkill anymore, used 37 GB when doing pre-processing of ~60 subs the other day!

Never had a memory as a bottleneck in PI with smaller sensors… memory is not that expensive, so go with at least 64 GB, you never know what camera and subs size you will have in a few years from now ;)

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Rainer Ehlert avatar

Hi,

Interesting topic about PC’s for PI.

Anyone has a data about let me say processing a 4656×3520 pixel big image with the Image calibration process ?

The PC I have has an average processing time of 3s per image eg. I processed the other day 161 lights in 8 minutes 8 seconds. I guess I have a slow PC compared to what has been used here.

After analysing my setup I found out I can improve the benchmark by setting up correctly my SWAP files.

So consider this post as nonsense from my side….

🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

AstroÅmazer avatar

I have a full frame mirror less which is 6040×4032 and 3 ~ 1” cooled cameras which are smaller. So I guess 64GB RAM will help.

Girish avatar

I have been using Macbook M4 Max 48GB Ram and PI works like horse with my rig of data including upto 300 images with the dark/flats and WPB doesn’t cry at all!

Randall Wiggins avatar

Maybe this will help. I just benchmarked my new Acer Predator Helios Neo AI laptop with the latest PixInsight. My temp folder for PixInsight is set to the second SSD, and the performance profile is set to maximum:

*******************************************************************************

The Official PixInsight Benchmark version 1.0

Copyright (C) 2014-2021 Pleiades Astrophoto. All Rights Reserved.

*******************************************************************************

Benchmark version ...... 1.00.08

Input checksum ......... 2cd72b67e12fff2812ef5b5da054ab2a70a25e23

Serial number .......... U3S8LJ9DG3GL7P3J6YM49U2H05C880E8

CPU Identification

CPU vendor ............. GenuineIntel

CPU model .............. Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 9 275HX

System Information

Platform ............... Windows

Operating system .......

Core version ........... PixInsight Core 1.9.3 (x64)

Logical processors ..... 24

Total memory size ...... 31.435 GiB

Execution Times

Total time ............. 00:18.48

CPU time ............... 00:13.18

Swap time .............. 00:05.27

Swap transfer rate ..... 3142.717 MiB/s

Performance Indices

Total performance ...... 25456

CPU performance ........ 28718

Swap performance ....... 17406

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Computer: Acer Predator PHN16S-71

CPU: Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX (Arrow Lake-HX, B0)

3100 MHz (31.00x100.0) @ 5187 MHz (52.00x99.8)

Motherboard: ARL FTYPE_ARX

BIOS: V1.07, 08/19/2025

Chipset: Intel HM870 (Arrow Lake-HX PCH)

Memory: 32768 MBytes @ 3192 MHz, 52-51-51-102

- 16384 MB PC51200 DDR5 SDRAM - SK Hynix HMCG78AHBVA327N

- 16384 MB PC51200 DDR5 SDRAM - SK Hynix HMCG78AHBVA327N

Graphics: Intel Arrow Lake-S/HX - Integrated Graphics [ACER]

Intel Graphics, 18919361 KB SDRAM

Graphics: Intel Arrow Lake-S/HX NPU - Neural Processing Unit (Movidius VPU3720) [ACER]

Intel NPU, 18788289 KB SDRAM

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Laptop [Acer]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Laptop, 12227 MB GDDR7 SDRAM

Drive: HFS001TEJ9X125N, 1000.2 GB, NVMe

Drive: CT1000P3SSD8, 976.8 GB, NVMe

Sound: NVIDIA GB205 - High Definition Audio Controller

Sound: Intel Arrow Lake-S PCH - ACE (Audio Context Engine) [B0]

Network: Killer Wi-Fi 6E AX1675i 160MHz Wireless Network Adapter (211NGW)

Network: RealTek Semiconductor/Killer E3000 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet Controller

OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Professional (x64) Build 26200.7171

Stellar Nomads avatar

I use this rig and it flies through the entire PI process, from WBPP to exporting:

i7-14700k

4070ti

32GB 5600 DDR5

2TB samsung evo NVMe.

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Jure Menart · Nov 27, 2025, 07:55 AM

I opted for an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor with 16 cores and 32 threads, equipped with two 2TB internal SSDs and a 4070Ti graphics card.

Pretty much the same as I built about a year or so back. The only difference is that I went with the 4080. I also went with the ASUS ProArt Mobo since I did not need all the flashing lights that gaming Mobos have and preferred stability.