Takahashi e-130D Primary adjustment

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Simon avatar

Hi everyone, I’ve tried searching, but just can’t find a clear explanation.

The adjusting screws on the rear of the primary mirror- in what order must I undo in order to assist collimation? I have previously removed the mirror for cleaning, then at one stage tightening the interior screws that hold the mirror, was worried I had made it too tight for collimation, so backed it off a bit. So now I need to be really sure of the purpose of these screws as I start to recollimate. I have the tak collimation kit and have done a fair bit of reading, but nowhere mentions how these screws work!

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Simon avatar

Wow. It is quiet here! No need to reply now 😊

Dunk avatar

I think:

  • Don’t touch (1) - thats holding the primary mirror in place.

  • Loosen 4 slightly then 2 and 3 are push/pull. Then tighten 4 again.

Simon avatar

Thanks mate, sounds similar to what I heard from another forum. Nice pics by the way! Hoping to get my old 130 back to form soon

Dunk · Oct 14, 2025 at 11:31 PM

I think:

  • Don’t touch (1) - thats holding the primary mirror in place.

  • Loosen 4 slightly then 2 and 3 are push/pull. Then tighten 4 again.

Dunk avatar

I am not at all certain about 2 & 3 though - this is what I did and it seems to work, but the Tak-supplied instructions are completely different (and wrong)…

Dunk avatar

actually what I say above could be completely wrong. I found this on my computer (can’t recall where I got it):

📷 epsilon-primary-collimation.pngepsilon-primary-collimation.png

Simon avatar

Ah that looks very useful Dunk. Gawd, Tak should really tighten their manuals!

Bill McLaughlin avatar

I have had mine totally apart and back together. Tiny #1 (on the side of the cell) is not holding the primary mirror in place, it simply locks the screws that do (the big #4 screws on the back) from turning once you are done.

When you say “holding the mirror”, do you mean the three screw set #4 or the set of three pairs that hold the mirror clips? #4 set of three holds the mirror cell (that includes the mirror) but not the actual mirror.

I would not remove the actual mirror (from the mirror cell/backplate) since that would mean recentering and resecuring it. Removing the mirror not only risks not centering it properly but also either pinching it or not getting it secure. One will give triangular stars and the other will let the mirror flop, changing the collimation when it does. Removing the mirror can be done but is not needed to clean the mirror, all you need to do that is to mark the backplate/mirror cell rotation relative to the tube so you know how it goes back in and then loosen the locking screws (#1) and remove the cell holding screws (#4). Then the mirror and cell will drop out (hopefully not on the floor😉).

When you put the rear cell with mirror back in you should advance the rear cell push screws just a bit first (6 of them - #2 and #3) and equally. If you don’t do that and the tips are flush, then the #4 cell holding screws (also pull screws for collimation) will have no latitude to adjust as you would be pulled tight against the back of the OTA.

I would HIGHLY suggest an OCAL to collimate. Much easier and more accurate than any Tak tools. I have used both as well as a laser and the OCAL beats everything in terms of ease and accuracy.

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Simon · Oct 16, 2025, 09:56 AM

Gawd, Tak should really tighten their manuals!

No kidding! They mostly make great optics but fall down badly in two departments, one is the manual and the other is the focuser, which is mostly crap on all their scopes.

It is kinda like a car with a Ferrari engine and a transmission from a Pinto. 😀

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Simon avatar

Thanks for the pointers everyone, so useful!

To make this thread even more useful for others, here is the guide referred to by Dunk with a link to the manual and a diagram

https://www.wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/e130d/index.htm

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