Escaping Windows?

Tony GondolaRead noise Astrophotography
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Sean Jackson avatar

Windows causes much exasperation because of its instability.

Please does anyone have a happy experience of using another operating system with software as powerful as Nina or Voyager?

I especially like automatic scheduling.

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Sean Jackson · Sep 11, 2025, 09:40 PM

Windows causes much exasperation because of its instability.

Please does anyone have a happy experience of using another operating system with software as powerful as Nina or Voyager?

I especially like automatic scheduling.

The only experience with a different OS that I have is using an RPi 4 with EKOS and KStars that was packaged with Astroberry. I could never get the system to all work at the same time, although others were successful with Astroberry. StellarMate OS is the paid for platform that uses EKOS and KStars that can work on RPis and mini PCs. There are of course other options, but these are the ones I have direct and indirect experience with.

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Windows is far from perfect, however myself, and almost all of my acquaintances are using NINA without any issue.

Could we help you stabilize your windows install? Maybe somethings wrong.

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I use a raspberry pi5 running Ubuntu linux with kstars, ekos/indi, phd2 & firecapture. Its been super reliable so far. System updates are optional.

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Honestly, I really don’t find Windows to be unstable. I can’t remember the last time I had the OS crash. In that respect it has improved a lot over the years. I think the bigger problem comes from what Microsoft wants verses what a small subset of users want. A least for now, there are proven ways to tame the beast.

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Arun H avatar
I have a dedicated Box PC using windows that runs NINA and SGP. It has never crashed in years of operation.
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I am tired of windows “owning” my computer. I looked into it a bit there is linux but then no NINA.

What issues are you having ?

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I think the issue with windows crashes comes from many people pausing and delaying the updates, time after time, I used to do this and then update when it suited me, maybe 2 or 3 months after they were released, only to get issues when trying to install a multitude of updates all in one go. Since I just gave in and run the updater pretty regular and keep it updated as they are released, again at time that suits me, I have never had an issue, just my observations 👍🏻

Ferrante Enriques avatar

I’ve been using KStars/Ekos/INDI on Linux (also compatible with Mac) since I began astrophotography in 2017.

The system is very reliable, but stability takes time, likely as much effort as stabilizing the Windows platform you are using.

Linux as an OS is very stable, but Ekos/INDI is continuously developed by the community, so you may frequently encounter bugs in the software and drivers.

On the plus side, the dev community is very responsive and eager to help fix issues and alternatively you can create your own fixes: I wrote my own drivers for the roof and weather station.

The scheduler may be less advanced and flexible compared to NINA (which I’ve only seen in a demo), but it meets my needs.

If you’re interested, I can also show you how my observatory operates, but if you’re new to Linux, I recommend sticking with Windows or starting with ASI AIR or Stellarmate.

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Quinn Groessl avatar

I agree with Astrostew. Any halfway decent computer can run NINA, PHD2, and whatever else you might need for an imaging capturing session. Any instability is on the programs themselves. Not the operating system.

What most are calling instability is probably just expected behavior. Mainly that you can only ignore updates so long before they just do it on their own. Most of these updates are actually pretty important for how we use these mini pcs because they’re to help secure it against attacks.

Anyway, I’ve never had an issue with windows. If it’s been a while since I last imaged, a couple weeks or more. Then I check for updates well before dark. It takes 5-10 minutes to install and it has never broken any of the programs I use. Then any other time I image if there’s an update, I apply it after I take flats in the morning.

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Arun H avatar
What Quinn said. I make it a point to update Windows and also any other programs that I am using. It has always worked.
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Ferrante Enriques · Sep 12, 2025, 07:52 AM

I wrote my own drivers for the roof and weather station.

Spoken like a true Linux user…

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Tony Gondola · Sep 12, 2025, 01:24 PM

Spoken like a true Linux user…

Stubbornly since 1996…

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Sean Jackson:
Windows causes much exasperation because of its instability.

Please does anyone have a happy experience of using another operating system with software as powerful as Nina or Voyager?

I especially like automatic scheduling.


Can you give more details on the instability you experience?

Windoze is far from perfect but always seems stable to me.
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Ferrante Enriques · Sep 12, 2025, 01:54 PM

Tony Gondola · Sep 12, 2025, 01:24 PM

Spoken like a true Linux user…

Stubbornly since 1996…

I tip my glass…

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Tony Gondola · Sep 12, 2025 at 01:24 PM

Ferrante Enriques · Sep 12, 2025, 07:52 AM

I wrote my own drivers for the roof and weather station.

Spoken like a true Linux user…

See this is the thing … I also have written firmware and drivers for my Obs. I had to …

But the only thing I use that needs Windows is NINA… Everything else I have would run a lot better on Linux…. Just afraid to take the jump… Maybe I should just do it I hate that windows think they own my computer

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If you can live without certain programs then go for it. You can do a dual boot or run it off an external drive so if it’s not working for you over time you can just get rid of it.

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I’ve got a laptop for my office stuff

But the workstation is dedicated to pix and playing around with llm python ect.. the obs computers run obs tasks.. changing the whole ecosystem…

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Tony Gondola · Sep 12, 2025 at 04:24 PM

If you can live without certain programs then go for it. You can do a dual boot or run it off an external drive so if it’s not working for you over time you can just get rid of it.

I’ve used and continue to use the external SSD route for my Linux instantiation. It works well enough with usb 3.0.

Samuel Müller avatar

I’ve been using KStars/Ekos/INDI with the distro AstroArch on two Rasp Pi (one with Pi 4, another with Pi 5) for both os my Setups, for over 2 o 3 years, and it’s been pretty reliable, not to mention, portable.

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Hi Sean,

Could you please clarify what you mean by instability? This will help us avoid making incorrect assumptions.

I’m using a Windows 10 machine for a couple of years now and don’t remember having any issues.

When a functioning system suddenly stops working, it can often be attributed to various changes to that system. Therefore, to maintain system functionality, it’s best to minimize and, if possible, avoid any changes.

First, let me rough out a list of potential changes to the system:

  • Software changes: operating system updates, driver updates, new installations or updates to existing software, infection with malicious software, etc.

  • Hardware changes: adding/removing components, component failures, connecting or disconnecting peripherals, etc.

  • Configuration changes: system settings modifications, changes to the registry, etc.

  • User actions: unintentional deletion of system files or applications, misconfigured software or system settings, etc.

The changes can occur not only individually but also in combination, which makes it even harder to identify and troubleshoot a problem.

As you can already guess, the broader the usage of the machine, the more reasons it has to change. For example, a laptop used for personal or work-related tasks has reasons to change that go beyond N.I.N.A or ASCOM driver updates.

With that said, here my approach to a stable functioning system:

  • 1. Have a dedicated imaging computer. Install only the image acquisition software (N.I.N.A, Voyager, INDIGO, etc.), its dependencies, possibly a guiding software (PHD2), and equipment drivers. Choose a mini PC (MeLe Quieter, Beelink, Fitlet 2) or a classic desktop, depending on your requirements.

  • 2. Don’t expose the system to the internet. If you have to, then avoid connecting directly. Transfer files using a flash drive or card. While it’s possible to still infect the system (as mentioned in points 5 and 6), there’s nothing of value on the system other than the imaging data. Reinstalling or restoring the system should be a breeze.

  • 3. Disable automatic system updates. Consider locking the system to a specific (stable) version e.g. Windows 10 22H2. All updates should be vetted and done manually.

  • 4. Use the system with a user account that has no administrative privileges. This minimizes unintentional changes and accidental misconfigurations.

  • 5. Remove all antivirus software. Not only does it slow down the system, but it can also modify it. See point #2.

  • 6. Use a separate disk space (dedicated disk partition, fast SD card, etc.) for your imaging data. You’ll appreciate reinstalling/restoring the system without having to worry about your data.

  • 7. Connect peripherals to the same ports. Visual markers or stickers can help keep track of where each peripheral goes.

  • 8. Configure your router to always assign the same IP address to the PC. This way, you won’t have to scan the network when the PC disconnects (for any reason).

The above is an elaboration on the adage “if it works, don’t touch it,” which is valid for any imaging system. I hope this helps.

Clear skies.

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Monty Chandler avatar

Personally I haven’t experienced stability issues in Windows 10 or 11 in many years. My NUC’s run APT for image acquisition along with the other bits required. Don’t think windows has ever just failed. Fully supported software seems to be the key to stability for me. Cheers

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Look I’ve been dumping on Microsoft (aka “M$”) and Windows since I first played around with Red Hat 5 in de mid 90s. (Yes, I was that kind of Linux fanboy). And I’m still using different kinds of linux every day on my day job. But I’ll also admit that modern Windows (XP past SP2, 7 and up) versions are pretty damn stable UNLESS your hardware has issues. Sure they phone home more than I’d like and they seem to be making the user experience worse intentionally (Copilot in freaking Notepad, Ads in Explorer?!) and those are good reasons to look elsewhere but plain crashing isn’t normal.

Make OS check itself (“sfc /scannow” & “DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth" from an admin command prompt) to rule out any corruption from a bad update, if necessary use the Reset Windows feature but if those don’t do the job your hardware has issues.

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Benny Colyn · Sep 13, 2025 at 12:40 PM

Sure they phone home more than I’d like and they seem to be making the user experience worse intentionally (Copilot in freaking Notepad, Ads in Explorer?!) and those are good reasons to look elsewhere but plain crashing isn’t normal.

Could not agree more 🤣. My biggest bug-bear has been OneDrive which completely does my head in. I will admit to doing a full Windows 11 Reset last week just to get rid of OneDrive completely from my system - it seems that once it has taken up residence it is near impossible to evict. Lesson learnt for me is never let OneDrive anywhere near your PC (or Mac). As for crashes? Not for me. If anything crashes or hangs it is usually one of the applications.