1.25 filter for APS-C?

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Steven avatar
Quick one to know the limits of the 1.25 filter.

I'm hoping to upgrade my narrowband set to a 3nm set. my current setup runs fine with 1.25" filters. So obviously that is what I'm looking at to purchase. But, in the back of my mind, I do think that "eventually" I will upgrade my camera to something like the ZWO 2600, with an APS-C sensor. So I do want to upgrade while keeping "future-proofing" in mind, but also want to reduce cost where possible. (this hobby is expensive enough already)

the diagonal of that camera is 28.3mm, a 1.25" filter is 31mm.. so in theory yes, but the bezel will reduce that a little so it might be too tight.
So far I've mainly found answers for this for the APS-C of a DSLR. I've used a 1.25" on my DSLR aswel, and there is some clear vignetting, but the sensor is mounted very deep in the camera, and with a dedicated camera, the filters would be closer to the sensor, perhaps reducing the vignetting.

Rather hear from someone with experience before I start purchasing things. 

Wether or not a ZWO 2600 is manageable with 1.25" filters, - if flats do a good enough job to deal with it, - or a slight crop is already enough.

I do understand that a 2" setup would be better. But… as upgrading to a 2" filter setup would come at significant cost + a new filter wheel.. and all of a sudden we're talking $1500+ on top of what I'm already considering spending.

Thanks.
Nadir Astro avatar
Steven, clear aperture of 1.25" filter is much less than 31mm - more like 26-27mm at the best. So unless you have really slow optics and light cone is very narrow, I'm afraid 1.25" filters are not the best choice for 2600 (unless you don't mind to crop the edges). 31mm can do the job for most of the systems, but really 36mm is what I would suggest to go with this sensor.

You can calculate everything here:

https://astronomy.tools/calculators/ccd_filter_size
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andrea tasselli avatar
Real world test on a f/5.6 lens yielded a fully illuminated circle of approximately 16 mm diameter. A 1.25" filter has a clear diameter of 28 mm.
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Steven avatar
Nadir Astro:
Steven, clear aperture of 1.25" filter is much less than 31mm - more like 26-27mm at the best. So unless you have really slow optics and light cone is very narrow, I'm afraid 1.25" filters are not the best choice for 2600 (unless you don't mind to crop the edges). 31mm can do the job for most of the systems, but really 36mm is what I would suggest to go with this sensor.

You can calculate everything here:

https://astronomy.tools/calculators/ccd_filter_size

Thanks Nadir, yea that's what I was "worried" about. 
I'm using an F5 scope, so not the slowest setup either.

I don't mind flats and maybe cropping in a bit, if like 95% of the frame is still useable.. so I'm sure I could work around it.
But, I might run into some weird situations if I ever go for some mosaics. 

36mm unmounted would be an option and would cut cost a bit, so I could consider that.
Miguel G. avatar
just my two cents. I have an f7 refractor and using 36mm unmounted filters with my apsc (qhy268m) camera. I would not go for something smaller. I still experience some vignetting but completely usable with the corresponding flats
alesterre avatar
I am using m4/3 sensor (ASI294mm) with 1.25" filters. Filter wheel is connected directly to the camera, so the distance from the sensor to the filter is 6mm of camera backspacing plus several mm inside the filter wheel (5 to 8mm I think). This is the closest I could get. On f4.8 refractor I am getting a severe vignetting with a sharp step in extreme corners and also sometimes strong reflections in the corners from the filter rims. Similar story with an f5 newton. So I think m4/3 is the hard limit for 1.25" filters at the medium focal ratios.
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