Telescope Mirror Cleaning

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Wayne Elley avatar
Just sharing my success with what is probably a 'cheats' way of cleaning my 8" GSO Classical Cassegrain primary & secondary mirrors. 

The larger size of the 8" telescope tube allowed me to get away with it. Instead of the recommended removal of the primary mirror, washing in mild soapy water, rinse with distilled water, I used Zeiss lens wipes, microfibre lens cloth & puffer bulb. It worked well. 

I afterwards read that I should have taken the wedding ring off!

Anyway, I disassembled the rear of the tube with the mirror attached,  cleaned that,  then carefully reached up inside the tube with the lens wipe, microfiber cloth & blower to clean the secondary mirror.

Slow and careful did the trick, as can hopefully be seen in the images. I wonder if anyone else has done this? 
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Tony Gondola avatar

You got away with it but I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s just not worth the risk.

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Tobiasz avatar

Congrats on the successful mirror cleaning. But I must say, what you describe and show as “dirty” mirrors would be perfectly clean in my eyes. I bought a used RC which mirrors which were never cleaned and they were absolutely filthy.

I imagined it would amplify the creation of halos around brighter stars, because of the light scattering so I cleaned them. I turned out the cleaning made no difference to the halos and/or image quality. Oh well. It can help against dew, because dust and dirt are dew accelerators.

I would recommend you before you disassemble any mirror: mark the relative position of the mirror (housing) to the tube with some tape, so you don’t put it back upside down.

You do not have to always “wash” mirrors and completely disassemble the mirror cell to “bath” them in soap water. I blow off dust particles first with a lens bellows and then lay out scientific wipes (they are lint-, dust- and grease-free) that are wetted with potable alcohol to loosen up any stickier mess. After that I get rid of the last streaks with dampened up wipes, moist breath and a soft touch.

This works extremely well for my (RC) mirrors and only takes a few minutes. The disassembly of the mirrors and putting them back in + collimation takes much longer than that :-)

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Wayne Elley avatar
Those are good tips, thanks. Yes I have read that so-called 'dirty' mirrors/lenses make less difference than you think. 

I'd bought this CC8 from someone a year ago so wasn't sure if it had ever been cleaned, I now have a 'benchmark' I think.

And yes, good idea to mark the position of the mirror if removing it.

Now I will of course need to collimate the mirrors, which I am going to do right now…
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Tobiasz avatar

Good luck with the collimation!

John Hayes avatar

Over the years, I’ve written extensively about cleaning optical components. The first thing to understand is that mirrors have to get pretty dirty before the performance of the telescope starts to noticeably degrade. It feels good to have a pristine, “like-new” looking mirror in your telescope but from what I can see from your photos, your mirror wasn’t in a serious need to be cleaned. My telescopes sit outside virtually every night in Chile where it is pretty dusty and they get pretty filthy between my annual maintenance visits. I see virtually no degradation in imaging performance—even when the mirrors are coated in a layer of grime. Star halos may be slightly more pronounced due to more scattered light but even that effect is barely noticeable.

The good news is that the silicon-monoxide overcoat used on most aluminum mirrors is pretty durable so, if you are careful, cleaning shouldn’t scratch the mirror. On my systems in Chile, the dirt will be so thick that the first cleaning step is to soak the mirror with cleaning fluid and to lay Kleenex tissue (Kim Wipes also work well) on the surface. Lifting the wet tissue from the surface without any wiping motion lifts the loose stuff from the surface. The the mirror is then soaked and the surface dabbed with clean tissue. I keep a trash bag nearby and change the tissue with every dab. I might spend 15 minutes soaking and dabbing until the tissues are no longer lifting any material from the mirror. At this point the mirror looks worse than when I started.

The next step is to use a folded tissue soaked in cleaning fluid in a gentle rolling motion to very lightly wipe the surface. The idea is to avoid wiping the surface with any dirt imbedded in the tissue. Again, I use a LOT of tissue to gently do a rolling wipe over the entire surface. At the end of this step, the mirror should be clean and free of debris and the trash bag full of a lot of dirty tissue.

The last step is to polish out all of the streaks and haze that remain. Again, using only new, clean tissue,I use a very fine spray of cleaning fluid and lightly polish the surface in small areas to a perfectly clean finish. When I’m done, the mirror will look like new.

Finally, what’s the best cleaning fluid? The OP reports using Zeiss lens wipes and reported they worked, but in my view, they are more suitable to eyeglasses than cleaning larger components. When I spent some time working at Celestron, I learned that they typically use acetone to clean their mirrors and that can work well, but I’m no longer in favor of that idea. First, acetone isn’t good to use inside and it is VERY flammable. Second, it will immediately dissolve paint and any plastic that it comes in contact with. Third, while it is a very good solvent for grease and oil, it mostly just serves to dissolve oils, spread it around and then quickly evaporate to leave a worse problem than what you started with. And finally, acetone dissolves paper produces like tissue. It’s bad for your hands, bad for cleaning, and bad for most wipes. So, why does Celestron keep doing this? Acetone is ultimately a terrible choice for cleaning most components.

I’ve found that the best cleaning solution is to mix distilled water 5:1 with reagent grade isopropyl alcohol (that you can order through Amazon). I mix it in a new plastic spray bottle from Home Depot. These bottles have a continuously variable spray pattern and that makes it very easy to control how much fluid you distribute on the surface. Using chemically pure alcohol and distilled water eliminates the possibility of leaving any residual film on the surface. Some folks like to add 1-2 drops of dishwashing liquid to the mixture simply to reduce the surface tension of the solution. I don’t think that’s necessary and it adds yet another thing that can create a film so I don’t recommend that approach.

NOTE: NEVER use rubbing alcohol to clean optics! Rubbing alcohol contains only about 70% alcohol along with oils, scents and other stuff that’s not good for your glass. The other choice that often generates controversy is the idea of using a commercial window cleaner such as Windex to clean optical surfaces. Many window cleaners contain ammonia and other ingredients designed to remove calcification. Ammonia attacks many optical coatings and it is not a good thing to use on precision optical components. Windex can also leave a film or haze on the surface—depending on how it dries and how it is polished. My advice is to NEVER use Windex on any optical components. There is nothing more effective or cheaper for most optical cleaning tasks than water and isopropyl alcohol.

John

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Bill McLaughlin avatar

For my CDK I would add that to remove by evaporation the very last small drops from a wet clean so they don’t leave spots, I have found that the power dusters with small nozzles work very well. I use the Wolfbox brand based on reviews but there are others.

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Tobiasz · Aug 12, 2025, 06:31 AM

After that I get rid of the last streaks with dampened up wipes, moist breath and a soft touch.

Is dampening the lens with your breath really ok? I’ve seen claims that the enzymes help clean, and that the acids will damage…….

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Scott

Gordon Pegue avatar
That tip on using a 5:1 mix of distilled H2O and reagent grade isopropyl alcohol is a good one John. I'll add that to my cleaning wisdom.
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Scott Badger · Aug 13, 2025, 04:27 AM

Tobiasz · Aug 12, 2025, 06:31 AM

After that I get rid of the last streaks with dampened up wipes, moist breath and a soft touch.

Is dampening the lens with your breath really ok? I’ve seen claims that the enzymes help clean, and that the acids will damage…….

Cheers,

Scott

What acids? Your breath should have a pH value of around 7, which is neutral and not acidic. Well, if something’s wrong that might change but I am not a doctor or biologist.

How would you know the potential damage on the mirrors/lenses does originate from “acids” in your breath and not something like too much pressure while cleaning?

What I can say is that the way I clean my stuff did no damage at all and I am talking about lenses, mirrors, correctors, camera sensor windows. Some of them were cleaned a few times already and still look brand new.

It think it is very important to not reuse your wipes and always take new ones for each step to prevent cleaning with a “grainy” wipe. The wipes I use contain 280 wipes a pack, so that’s not a problem for me.

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Scott Badger · Aug 13, 2025, 04:27 AM

Is dampening the lens with your breath really ok?

Depends on how much alcohol you have consumed lately….. 🥴….. might that actually help? 🍹

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Tobiasz:
Scott Badger · Aug 13, 2025, 04:27 AM
Tobiasz · Aug 12, 2025, 06:31 AM

After that I get rid of the last streaks with dampened up wipes, moist breath and a soft touch.

Is dampening the lens with your breath really ok? I’ve seen claims that the enzymes help clean, and that the acids will damage…….

Cheers,

Scott

What acids? Your breath should have a pH value of around 7, which is neutral and not acidic. Well, if something’s wrong that might change but I am not a doctor or biologist.

How would you know the potential damage on the mirrors/lenses does originate from “acids” in your breath and not something like too much pressure while cleaning?

What I can say is that the way I clean my stuff did no damage at all and I am talking about lenses, mirrors, correctors, camera sensor windows. Some of them were cleaned a few times already and still look brand new.

It think it is very important to not reuse your wipes and always take new ones for each step to prevent cleaning with a “grainy” wipe. The wipes I use contain 280 wipes a pack, so that’s not a problem for me.

As a retired professional in optical manufacturing, and having designed many production systems for cleaning optics prior to coating over the years, the method outlined by Tobiasz using breath and a final wipe is sound... Infact I often use breath and look at the condensation pattern to determine "is the surface is clean enough". A perfectly clean surface with no nucleation sites will create what is called "Black Breath". A completely uniform no droplet surface, that will show interference patterns as the condensed breath evaporates. Don't expect to get this with your mirror or lens just look for a somewhat uniform breath pattern.

There are many ways to clean an optical surface, several good ones have been posted here,  the key to success is never rub an optical surface, never use a wipe more than once, use a bright light with the reflection outside your FOV to evaluate the surface, look close and look at the entire surface to judge your efforts, use reagent grade solvents, and take your time...
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