Ronny May avatar
Hey guys
I recently acquired a C9.25 SCT XLT and I just can't get it into focus. I previously collimated it with the Baader Laser Collimator MK3 and only mounted the three cameras with a 105mm backfocus. No ADC, Barlow, or reducer. I also tried to attach the cameras directly to the telescope, same result. It looks like there is shifting something in the pictures. I also tried an artificial star, it looks like there are two stars.

Do you know what the problem is? Bad collimation?
Tom Gray avatar
It sounds as thought the focuser is the problem. I don't know about Celestron, but most SCTs focus by mving the mirror up and down a baffle - is there a mirror lock that needs to be disengaged first?
Ronny May avatar
no there is just the focuser knob/wheel.

theoretically i get into focus. i can get over the focus in both directions. but the picture "in focus" is still awful and like doubled at the tree edges.
Tom Gray avatar
Could be collimation then - the best thing is a tri-bahtinov mask - like this https://github.com/cytan299/tribahtinov. I'd start visually with a star, then attach a camera to fine tune. Be careful not to turn the three tiny collimation screws too far, nor loosen too much, as the secondary mirror can become detached! Using a mask with the tri-bahtinov makes it much easier to determine which screw to tighten/losen. I routinely use a tri-bahtinov to check collimation, and 'Bob's knobs' make adjustment much easier than trying to use a hex wrench in the dark. Hope it works.
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Anthony (Tony) Johnson avatar
There is only one true way to adjust you mirrors and that’s with a star. Owning an SCT for over 40 years 8” 12” and a C6” I’ve had every conceivable way to culminate my scope and the only way to get true culmination is to use a star. I use Polaris to do both of mine. Polaris hardly moves any so it give you time to tweak it then recenter your scope. Also when you are doing this try to keep whatever star you use in the center of the field of view it matters. Also there is a tri-batanov mask for those of us who use SCT’s. It is not only used for focus but gives you 6 alignment points that aid in culminating the SCT. There are numerous videos on YouTube that can assist you in using one. I highly recommend you getting one of these. Also try to put your camera if that is what you are using directly on the back of the scope no extenders, no focuser, nothing. Backfocus has no bearing on this adjustment. Backfocus is only for reducers and correctors which you never want in the optical train while you’re doing this adjustment. There are a couple of culmination tools for your laptop if you image on that. One for a Mac and one for windows that put an adjustable set on circles on your screen that you align your star to, that can help if you aren’t using the tri_-batanov mask. Give those two methods a try and if you still can’t achieve good culmination you’ll need to have your scope checked out for other problems. And the main mirror on the Celestron and Meade SCT’s do move to adjust focus.  So there can be issues there with mirror shift and tilt. Heard about them, never experienced it myself. I have both. Truly my suggestion is to ditch the laser, been there done that, and the artificial star and just use the real thing. Works every time. And take your time. Again if after you get your adjustment and are still have focus issues you have other problems that will need the expertise of a trained professional to sort out.
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Anthony (Tony) Johnson avatar
https://youtu.be/pSdQjndsJGQ?si=D9nXPMlfSVsfgwK5
excellent video on how to use the tri bahtinov mask. I was spelling it wrong in my post. Sorry for that.
Ronny May avatar
i tried a tree 2 miles away… same crap. so i know its not the distance. there is something seriously wrong. i will try it at a star tomorrow. but i allready know it will be not good.

tom gray you say i should not tighten the collimation screws to much. i tighten them very well, i should loose them a bit, maybe it helps.
allready got bobs knobs thx :-)
 
hey toni, i have a tri bathinov. will try it tomorrow. thx for your advises.

i think i have a main mirror tilt/problem. or how it is possible to see thin branches and an artificial star two times shiftet? :-(
Eddie Bagwell avatar
I also have the 9.25 SCT and use a Tri-Bahtinov Mask to collimate using Bob's Knobs. Do not overtighten the screws when collimating, that could be the problem. You are just aiming the mirror with the adjusting knobs.
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Ronny May avatar
thx eddie i will try tonight. hope thats the problem. thx alot guys, i will give feedback
Ronny May avatar
It was the collimation 😅 Bobs knobs to tight and laser collimation was useless. At the Star was the best way as you said. So easy. Thx a lot guys
Ronny May avatar

https://app.astrobin.com/u/Stargaze?i=m4c09g
​​​​​​​I think I've roughly managed it :-)