Overall Photons Project_2: A deep view into the Perseus galaxy cluster

C. Jonas Moiel:
Hello,
In the participation criteria it mentions all contributors can process the final data and post to astrobin. Im curious if this is in line with the IOTD process? My understanding is that only 1 processed image should be submitted per collaboration on AB.

OP is a project where everyone is free to process the cumulative data as they wish and I don't know if this is against the Astrobin rules. I hope that Astrobin is in favor of individual freedom of processing and promotes it

C. Jonas Moiel:
The IOTD rules mention how to post collaborative images here: https://welcome.astrobin.com/iotd#rules

I would avoid talking about AB's rules since the post was opened to promote the second project of Overall Photons.

Do you want to participate in the Project?

The most important thing is to work in a shared way and have fun.
AB, apod, magazines, socials come later in my opinion

This has nothing to do with Overall Photons.

Will you participate in the project?

I will have to skip this round, Abell 426 is a northern hemisphere target… It would be cool to see what comes out, though!

Good luck!

Andrea Iorio:
This has nothing to do with Overall Photons.

Will you participate in the project?

Your response to this question is odd. It does have to do with OP since your posting this on AB with rules that aren't in line with AB for IOTD. Bringing this to your attention should be considered a good thing.

Sorry Andrea I copied the wrong post… Still not had my coffee… Which filter set would you prefer and I can start early this week. High pressure and clear skies are forecasted…

Thanks and CS Tim

Tim Ray:
Sorry Andrea I copied the wrong post... Still not had my coffee... Which filter set would you prefer and I can start early this week. High pressure and clear skies are forecasted...

Thanks and CS Tim

Ha 6nm and LRGB

thanks for your participation 💪💪💪

Andrea Iorio:

C. Jonas Moiel:

Andrea Iorio:
This has nothing to do with Overall Photons.

Will you participate in the project?

Your response to this question is odd. It does have to do with OP since your posting this on AB with rules that aren't in line with AB for IOTD. Bringing this to your attention should be considered a good thing.

AB will evaluate whether my project is against the rules. 
If so, we will post our result elsewhere without any problem!!!!

If you want to participate in the project you are welcome. otherwise I wish you clear skies

This project will give the participants the final dataset and IP, So of course if 10 people have the same dataset IOTD rules come into play. I am sure there are rules for people who buy or download public data and post. I want to IP a monster dataset to see the results... I for one will simply not submit this image for IOTD consideration to avoid the drama. I cant get a vote on a 132hour dataset for IOTD on my own, but I wish all the rest of the participants success on any contest or evaluations of choice!

CS Tim

Tobiasz:

C. Jonas Moiel:
Thanks, I'm not sure. The first project by OP had individuals posting each processed version on AB which is not how collaborative images are suggested to be handled for the IOTD process. Its sort of an important question for some.

Yes, it seems the Helix Nebula project was submitted several times. The clarification is important, because submitting the same data multiple times to the IOTD process can have consequences:

Failure to respect the rules above may incur in the removal of an image from the IOTD/TP selection process, in the stripping of its awards, or, in case of recidivism, a temporary or permanent ban in participating the IOTD/TP. AstroBin reserves the right to freely interpret the rules above where there is room for interpretations. AstroBin reserves the right to change the rules above in the future. Should that happen, you will be automatically prompted to accept them on AstroBin. (Source: https://welcome.astrobin.com/iotd#rules )

Possible participants should be aware of that.

Dear @Tobiasz , dear C. Jonas Moiel: @C. Jonas Moiel , 

Thanks for pointing that out. At the time of deciding whether I would participate in the first project, which I did, I took the time to read the rules. I considered that this project (or at least my participation in it) falls exactly into the first exception clause that is foreseen by the rules : 

The following cases constitute exemptions to this rule:

1. Massive ad-hoc collaborations of people who are otherwise not connected as being part of a team and do share resources regularly.
2. Ad-hoc projects that reuse older data in order to achieve very long integration times or create very large mosaic, as long as the data does not come from people who regularly collaborate.

Overall photon is not a stable team that goes beyond a single project. It is indeed an ad-hoc collaboration of non-related people. It is very different from team where member collaborate on a regular basis, or even share common gears. 

Of course, if my reading of the rules is mistaken, I would like to know it asap from Astrobin staff. 

@Andrea Iorio : I won't be a part of the next one, as this one noes neither match my interest nor my gear. 

Clear skies to everyone, 

Patrice