spaceartic avatar
Hi,

Please see attached guide screen off the asiair pro app. I'm running an EQ6R-pro mount and an OAG with an asi290mm mini. 

Once the asiair starts to guide, RA nearly instantaneously rockets off, always to the positive side. I'm decently confident in the polar alignment in the app. I can reach at least 2' or better, and I often double check a couple times. I've tried changing nearly every setting I can find, but am running out patience/options on how to fix this. Any ideas?

laup1234 avatar
bonjour
je pense que ton Etoile est trop lumineuse 
baisse le gain.
de plus moi j'ai une agressivité en Ra de 45 à 50%
et de 65 % en dec. et je suis en général à 0,5 de RMS total.
avec une asi 120mm et une lunette guide altair 60/225

bon ciel
Paul
spaceartic avatar
Thanks for the feedback, I'll adjust the gain next time! I had the RA aggression high and low, that's just what it was when I got the image. It certainly shouldn't be 200%.
Tommy Blomqvist avatar
I thought that 100% was the maximum limit. 
Yes 200% seems a bit to aggressive 😀
Shawn Fields avatar
It looks like it's behaving with a flipped calibration setting. Also, I noticed just from the image too that your saturation is high. Try turning the gain down too. (that's not the drift problem). How's your calibration?  And of course turn the aggression back down to 50% to start.
spaceartic avatar
It looks like the asiair doesn't/hasn't saved any calibration data? Next session I'll look for that. I'll try hitting the flip calibration button and see where that gets me though. Thanks for the input.
SemiPro avatar
It looks like the asiair doesn't/hasn't saved any calibration data? Next session I'll look for that. I'll try hitting the flip calibration button and see where that gets me though. Thanks for the input.

It will save it either on the microSD, or on the USB stick you user under ASIAIR -> log
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A good practice is to do a separate calibration for every target before you start Autorun.  Seeing and transparency are rarely the same from night to night or even sometimes during a single session.  The Multi-star guiding works perfectly every time and is meant to be foolproof and is, if your basic settings are in the very forgiving ZWO ballpark.  A guide camera gain of 300 is not in the ballpark nor is an RA aggression setting of 100.
    1- set your guide camera gain to 50% of max gain and exposure to 2 seconds then "clear" calibration data
    2-calibrate guiding before starting Autorun
    3-start guiding mode in auto DEC with corrections switched on
    4-set both RA and DEC aggression to 50
    5-let guiding settle for a complete screen pass. it should be very good as it is but if RA is continually correcting and has a value over 70 or higher raise the RA aggression by 5 or 10.  If your seeing is average or better this is often enough.  If you are raising you RA agg, above 85 or so your seeing is shit or you have a setting that is nor in the ballpark.
    6- see the very good reference from Michael to fine tune your guiding
    7 once your guiding is settled change your guide camera exposure time to 3 or 4 seconds
All of the good advise given by fine Astrobin people in this thread is readily available from multiple sources on the internet and the ZWO asiAir Pro users manual.
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Steven avatar
You didn't mention it in the post.

But did you try a new calibration? Clearing the previous one and re-calibrating the guiding? I tend to do that at the start of each night, usually.. 

Also, check the "corrections" button. See if there are any RA corrections. They should show as little red and blue bars. You should be able to see if the mount is getting the right amount of corrections, and if the corrections are on the correct side. Maybe it's flipped or not, who knows.

Other things, maybe a cable snag, but I'm assuming you checked that.
or a loose clutch, assuming you checked that.
Unbalanced mount, maybe the counter weight shifted, assuming you checked that. 



Either way, doing a recalibration from time tot time can't hurt, pretty much any and every time you've moved/set up your mount.
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spaceartic avatar
Hi all,

Just wanted to close the loop on this issue I was having. I appreciate the feedback from everyone on tips/tricks/best practices. Ultimately, what fixed my issue was updating my ZWO ASIAIR Pro firmware... I was connecting to my EQ6R through the hand controller. I installed the new OS from ZWO that allowed me to connect directly to the USB port on the mount, and then guiding worked! Everyone loves graphs so if you feel inclined, I'll attach the log... Other than that, thank you! PHD2_GuideLog_2021-09-10_204759.txt
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EmuHead avatar
Having the exact same issue with the latest Android version 1.8.1[883] of the firmware.  I'll have to wait until 1.8.2 gets public release before imaging.. I'm looking at NINA now, as this isn't sustainable.
wsg avatar
I currently have v 1.8.83  on my Ipad although I have not used it due to weather, it is downloadable now.  Since you have edited your post, I'd like to add I have never had a guiding issue of any kind with with any version of asiAIR Pro.  Just lucky I guess.

scott
Ryan Jones avatar
I have had this exact same problem after doing a software update a while ago on my ASIair V1. It did my head in for hours and I got quite upset with myself for doing the update. In the end , after calming myself down, I went back to basics and checked everything. The solution was the wrong mount was selected. It had changed from Synscan to something very similar. I think it was Skyscan or something. Either way what was happening was the postive RA pulses were being sent to the Negative side on the mount and vice versa. Adding to the frustration was that it would still calibrate properly. I now run it directly with an EQmod cable and the EQmod setting.
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Yes I heard about the Synscan issues recently also, however as I'm using an eq6r pro with a usb cable in 'EQMod Mount' mode, this is very unusual.