Refurbished scope, not quite as sharp as it could be.

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Jens avatar
This weekend I had first light of my refurbished Newtonian Telescope. It is 60 years old and was used in observatories as a visual scope for a long time.
I took it home, cleaned everything, Flocked the Tube, made a mirrormask, new Focuser, new Tuberings etc. to make a astrograph out of it.

as a first test, I aimed it a several bright targets to see how it performs. I expected nothing but was pleasently suprised to see that it performs pretty good.
Now I realized in my tests that even though it seemed sharp there was still a slight blur to the photos especially the stars.

I have this video as reference on how sharp a newtonian can be : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5bLMDQN2NA
I feel like my stars look a bit bloated and not quite in Focus even though my 6 spiked defraction spikes indicate that I was on point with my focus.

What could be the cause of this? maybe the backfocus? Coma corrector?  or are the mirrors indeed to old and not quite up to the task?
Or am I just expecting to much out of my system?


Dave Rust avatar
Without knowing more, I would not suspect the mirrors. Our club here in Indiana continues to maintain a 1939 36 inch reflector and it still makes pinpoint stars, despite the fact that a visual inspection of the mirrors themselves shows evidence of aging.
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andrea tasselli avatar
My guess you still have to get it 100% collimated as you have slight amount of residual coma. Well, unless the mirror itself is to blame which without a star test there is no way to know.
Jens avatar
andrea tasselli:
My guess you still have to get it 100% collimated as you have slight amount of residual coma. Well, unless the mirror itself is to blame which without a star test there is no way to know.

Alright so star testing will probably be the right move. I really hope the mirror is still alright, But I wouldn't be suprised if that is the culprit
David Russell avatar
How did you Collimate the telescope ?
Tony Gondola avatar
If you question the quality of the optics, do a classic star test. It's easier than ever doing it digitally. If the primary is good. This can also serve as a check on your collimation. 

What is the aperture and focal length? What camera are you using? Are you using a coma corrector? How good was the seeing? What does your guiding graph for the night look like? Are you suffering from tube currents? What was the elevation range during the session…..You get the idea. without a lot more information it's hard to tell much from a single image.
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TiffsAndAstro avatar
Do Newtonians lose their spikes when out of focus, or anything similar?
Tony Gondola avatar
If you are talking about the spider vane spikes, you can't really use them as an indication of good focus, you need to use a bahtinov mask for that. If you use NINA or any other capture software that gives you live FHWM or HFD, you can use those numbers to nail focus. It's what I did until very recently.
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Matthew Paul avatar
What type of coma corrector is being used? Many can induce spherical undercorrection which results in soft focus. This is where the Hyperbolic imaging newtonian came from. The primary mirror is over corrected in order to compensate for the undercorrection induced by the coma corrector. The Baader MPCC is an example of a corrector which adds spherical undercorrection. Usually it's not such a big deal, but if your primary is already undercorrected a little ( or a lot) and you add more undercorrection… well.. Not ideal. 

That said it could be many things. We need more information. What is the focal length, aperture, camera being used, coma corrector, etc.
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