Your longest photographic "dry spell"?

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Marc avatar
Hi folks,

I recently noticed that I haven't logged into Astrobin in a while - there was just nothing, absolutely nothing to upload. And that's because of the weather. We moved about a year ago, not too far from where we lived before. However, since then (September 2020 until today), I haven't had a single usable night for astrophotography. After 2 or so ok'ish nights shortly after the move where I spent time setting up and calibrating my gear, it's been a big no show in terms of stars. I kid you not… There were a few hours here and there where one could have attempted to take pictures, but I am long past the point where I drag all my kit into the garden for 2 hours of imaging. It's just not worth it to me when a fully exposed image typically takes 12+ hours. 

I am unfortunate enough to live between to large bodies of water (North Sea on the on side, the Baltic Sea on the other), so I have learned to accept that I am not getting as many nights as someone  living in a desert, but it's been a year, come one Universe smile

Anyone else had to deal with uncooperative weather quite this bad?

CS,
Marc
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Steven avatar
I know how you feel. it's been months since I had proper a good night, with good seeing conditions and hours upon hours of cloudless skies.
Most nights have been… meh.. usually some clouds around.. or hazy.. or only 2-3 hours worth of clear sky.. usually when the full moon is out to ruin things.
This meant some of my projects are worked on for months and months. collecting 2-3 hours of data when I can. As annoying as that is…as, like you. I prefer getting 15+ hours on projects.

It doesn't help that my layout at home limits my shooting to begin with. Great views south/west. Crap views north/east. And Kinda crap views straight up too. (Part of my balcony is covered by a roof. So I tend to shoot at 45 degrees or lower to begin with), So at the moment it has been 2 months since my last nebula photography (sounds like we're in an AA meeting :happy-1smile

What I have done though to help a little, is to diversify my astrophotography.
- Bought a cheap solar scope, and occasionally I do some solar imaging. you don't need hours of clear sky for that!
- Same for planetary. A newtonian or maksutov scope and my guide camera, make for an "ok"-ish planetary rig. A hole in the clouds of an hour is more than enough for that.
- reprocessing older data.

Obviously I'd prefer to setup my rigs 8 hours worth of nebula or galaxy data in one night.. and I can't wait for that.. 
But, I'm doing my best to get my astrophotography fixes in other ways.
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Marc avatar
AA meeting, indeed! smile
And good point about diversifying - I was thinking of getting a smaller "travel" setup, maybe a RedCat + DSLR to just grab and quickly set up for some wide-field images at least. Those can be fun even with just 2-3 hours of exposure.
Scott Badger avatar
Hello my name is Scott and I'm an astroholic…..smile

Thanks Marc for suddenly making me feel lucky with my one night a week on average! Of course, it's always a Sunday night since Monday is my earliest morning for work…..

The hardest thing is going to bed on a cloudy night assuming no prospect, waking up at midnight or after and seeing stars through the window, and then the mental struggle over going back to bed vs. getting up, getting dressed, and setting up…..

Cheers,
Scott
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Sean van Drogen avatar
I share your pain.
My solution is mostly that even on not so perfect nights I still setup and collect as much data as possible. Even with all the clouds and the relative short darkness I managed to cobble together almost 4 hours on 1 target in last 3 nights, but spent about 1 hour after each night going over all captures to get rid of cloudy ones etc. So to get about 16 hours on target i would need another 9 blegh nights to get their and even those nights are rare.
Claudio Tenreiro avatar
This has become the norm down here, Chile, latitude 35 south, all nights either cloudy or with dense fog, sometimes it seems fine, and you set up everything, and after an hour you listen the PHD2  guiding alarm that guiding stars were lost…you look up and…it is all white of fog !, so collecting short time exposures has been quite normal now…but is not the idea …even that those shorts windows are with not good seeing.
Scott Badger avatar
I turned to a credit on iTelescope that I had left from when my backordered scope finally arrived, and 4 weeks later not one of my reservations worked out.....now I have an even larger credit left over.....

If only we could mount telescopes on drones....

Paul Wilson avatar
The idea is to set up your scope in a "dark, dry and high" place.  Not many of us are able to do that.  I live at only 500' MSL under fierce summer heat and high humidity.  Bortle 7.  This has also been a cloudy summer.
But the worst thing is the smoke!  Fires in the US western states have pumped high altitude, transparency killing smoke across the entire continent.

I continue to strongly consider remote imaging, setting up my own equipment on someone's permanent pier.  Sadly this is a very expensive thing to do, and the bills for carrying it alone are high.  I have tried to find partners, but no one seems interested, which took me by surprise.

This is a tough and expensive hobby in many ways.
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Scott Badger avatar
Ha! Not sure if expensive is desirable, but if it were easy, I'm guessing not many here would be interested….

Nothing is better than a night where everything works seamlessly and the data is as perfect as your gear allows, but that satisfaction is in direct proportion to the blood, sweat, tears and blown out neurons that went into making that happen. For me at least.
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Chris avatar
I sympathies with all of you the same, I took time off for medical reasons. When I was able to go at it again, I purchased a new mount and scope two years ago. Since then were I live they built four massive warehouses with LED lights every were. Now they replaced all the street lights with nice and bright LED street lights on my street. 

I have to say that, I am one of the few lucky ones that will be able to move to a high and dry location under a Bortle 1 sky.
UpperYarraObservatory avatar
Regularly cloudy here… went out last night, polar aligned hoping light cloud would clear… after 4 hrs packed up.. 
However I don’t want to live in the desert. 
Fortunately the observatory is ready to go at a moment’s notice, and after 20 years, you just accept it and enjoy those special moments when you get a good night……
SemiPro avatar
This is peanuts and crackers compared to what has been mentioned above but I haven't been able to do any deep space imaging for probably two months due to fire smoke. This week was actually clear or smoke, and the conditions were pretty great. Too bad I was working. Now that it is the weekend and I could do something, the smoke is back. Awesome. It will be unlikely that I point a telescope at the sky for imaging purposes until late September or October now.

I am still debating driving out tonight but if I do that I think I might just slew around and do some visual stuff.

Knowing my luck, the smoke will follow me as I drive east for university



Fun fact: Astrobin tracks your integration time by month! Kind of funny that I banged out most of my time when I was a bright eyed newbie in January. Now that I kind of know what I am doing I can't get any data to save my life.
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John Hayes avatar
Well, let's see.  I stopped imaging in 1969 and restarted sometime in (maybe) 2014 so that's a 45 year "dry spell", but that wasn't due to weather.  My longest weather shutdown might have been around 6 months many years ago during a winter in Central Oregon.  I was so frustrated that I eventually moved my scope out to DSW in New Mexico.  That worked for a while but now I've been shut down out there since early June with terrible weather and no end in sight.  During the monsoons, DSW is just an expensive telescope storage facility.  I'm about to ship a 20" scope off  to Chile and I hope that the weather is way better down there.

John
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Marc avatar
Thanks for all the input, glad to hear I am not the only one with this issue. Although it seems I hold the unfortunate distinction of having been cursed with bad weather for a whole year smile

I actually did think about getting into remote imaging - considering the cost of having ones astro kit rotting away in the shed, having a remote setup doesn't seem too bad. 

Sadly for me, the process of capturing data is half of what makes the hobby fun, so just downloading images from a remote server isn't really an option. So here is hoping for better weather…
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Marc avatar
And we are at 2 months with no stars again… I need a better hobby!
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Scott Badger avatar
Three months of every night that's clear all night is terrible seeing, like can't even plate-solve the stars are so bloated (not that it matters since any data would be unusable anyhow), and every night that starts clear with decent seeing, I think my best has been an hour and a half before the clouds show up…… It's been a long winter so far playing Charlie Brown to the sky gods Lucy and her football……

Cheers,
Scott
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daywalker avatar
Mr Bray Falls video about the merits of a remote setup seem to make more and more sense.. Most of us like being hands on with equipment etc .Its part of the fun. However sometimes , what with  living in the uk ; astrophotography  seems like folly. I guess it depends on how much you invest in it. This year I am going to keep a diary to see how many good quality nights i get in 2023.

Lunar imaging keeps me sane. Guaranteed if its a clear night the moons lighting up the sky.
Jeff Horn avatar
Same here.  Last image (project) was done in October.  Had the beginnings of a clear night this week that only last an hour.  Pretty frustrating to set up two rigs only to break it down an hour later.  I had a good run in the spring and summer (no smoke thankfully) but paying the price now.  Still waiting to do ngc 1333, m78, m42 and dolphin head.  Not sure I will get any of them done at this rate.  Oh and never mind the comet lol.
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Dan H. M. avatar
I didn't get anything worth processing between December 2020 and February 2022.  I don't think there was a single clear night here in the Northeast the entire summer of 2021.
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Bill McLaughlin avatar
Since my remote site is near Monterey in California, it is better called a "wet spell"smile
andrea tasselli avatar
Certainly no worse and maybe slightly better than the average year here in the East Midlands (of the UK). On the other hand, Winter's blues should only to be expected this time of the year.
Jure avatar
As the slogan says, I live on the sunny side of the Alps. Ha! It's been two months and 4 days since the skies were last clear. Weather patterns sure have changed a lot! Like Daywalker, I am keeping a diary this year to count all clear nights. My 2022 year astro diary shows 32 sessions and not a single night was completely clear! I hardly missed a clear night, so, maybe there were  40 *partially* clear nights in the whole year!? Sunny side of the Alps indeed!
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Marc:
Hi folks,

I recently noticed that I haven't logged into Astrobin in a while - there was just nothing, absolutely nothing to upload. And that's because of the weather. We moved about a year ago, not too far from where we lived before. However, since then (September 2020 until today), I haven't had a single usable night for astrophotography. After 2 or so ok'ish nights shortly after the move where I spent time setting up and calibrating my gear, it's been a big no show in terms of stars. I kid you not... There were a few hours here and there where one could have attempted to take pictures, but I am long past the point where I drag all my kit into the garden for 2 hours of imaging. It's just not worth it to me when a fully exposed image typically takes 12+ hours. 

I am unfortunate enough to live between to large bodies of water (North Sea on the on side, the Baltic Sea on the other), so I have learned to accept that I am not getting as many nights as someone  living in a desert, but it's been a year, come one Universe

Anyone else had to deal with uncooperative weather quite this bad?

CS,
Marc



You could not have peeked deeper into the wound :-)
The weather in Germany has been horrible since December, and in despair I even move out for a chance of 1 hour partially clouded skys. Very frustating, as all images I took where to be thrown out for clouds in frames. 

nevertheless, I was lucky enough once on the rosette nebula - but its pure gambling at the moment. 

at least weather reports suggest that its bad from spain to norway … so not even traveling would help. 

i am afraid we just have to wait until some high pressure system dominate again and lock themselves in …