Hello from Sydney Australia !

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Gary JONES avatar
Hello from Sydney Australia !

I'm a total beginner at astronomy, and astrophotography in particular, so I am very happy to find a place like Astrobin where I can connect with others.

I always wanted to have some fun with astronomy, so finally bought a small telescope last year.
I quickly realised I chose a hobby that was complex, time-intensive and expensive,
not unlike owning a boat, except astronomy requires you to stay up all night in the freezing cold,
whereas owning a boat requires you to stay up all day in the soaking wet, often floating backwards down the river.

So - I've been on a very steep learning curve trying to understand all the technical jargon and how to operate my equipment.

The first obstacle was buying a mount that had a big 'N' printed on it, and instructions telling me to point it North and to find the Polar Star.
It took me a while to realise I was upside-down and living in the wrong hemisphere,
and that all the images in my astronomy book were taken north of the equator and therefore the wrong way up.

I finally managed to get my head around things like RA and DEC, the difference between a SSO and a DSO,
it took a while to work out what the ecliptic is, why objects zoom around on it more-or-less, but not always,
what a meridian flip actually meant (had to learn what a meridian was first), why DA/DEC always point in the same direction but Alt/Az don't,
and why Polar Alignment is so important and how to do it properly, particularly when I can't see the SCP from my backyard because of all the trees,
and why Isaac Newton still looms large in everything to do with the way the universe hangs together.

Then there were the back-focus, image circles, reducers, Barlows, optical paths, field flatteners, pixel size, sensitivity, noise and filters,
focussers, guide scopes, mono vs colour, filter wheels, resolution, image registration, normalisation, stacking and adjustment,
not to mention trying to understand why I couldn't open a FITs file on my computer - but now I can.

I spent a couple of months experimenting by imaging the trees in the back yard before I had the courage to take my gear outside,
which I finally did last August. I spent hours setting everything up to make sure it was all 'just right'.

It's hard to describe the feeling of sitting there waiting for the sun to set and the stars to come out,
doing a real polar alignment for the first time, then hitting the 'GoTo' button to swing my scope to a specific target,
and then to press 'start' to begin the imaging sequence. It was a bit like going on a first date.

Thankfully, capturing all those images of my trees seemed to pay off, and everything went more-or-less according to plan.

This was actually the first picture I ever took, a fuzzy blob called Saturn.
I got a picture of Saturn - how fantastic I thought that was !

Then I realised I needed to learn about how to focus on planets, rather than trees.
and that Saturn is really, really small when you look at it through a little telescope like mine.

So - I thought I'd try something bigger.

Amazingly, my first 'proper' image turned out pretty well, take a look at it here ...
M8 = NGC-6523 Lagoon Nebula + M20 = Trifid Nebula.

It was even published in a book on astronomy, so I was very encouraged to carry on.

I started getting the hang of things, and discovered that getting your focus just right does make a difference.
 
At least my picture of Saturn was an elliptical blob now, rather than a round blob,
and yes, it did actually look like the pictures you see in books !!

So - I began looking around to join some online groups, to learn from others and share experiences.

I discovered Astrobin only yesterday ... I was amazed to find such a fantastic resource for amateur astrophotographers.
I registered right away, and have been busy today learning how to use the site and posting up a few pics.

Please take a look at them here and let me know what you think

And finally ...
Many thanks to Salvatore for building such an amazing site - and for his super-quick and encouraging responses to my 'how do I do x' beginner-style questions.

Clear Skies,


Gary (Sydney, Australia)
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David Nozadze avatar
Hello Gary!

You described pretty much everything I went through myself, except the boat part smile

And as far as astronomy is concerned, we, here up north, are the ones in the wrong hemisphere, not you smile

Clear skies!
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Gary JONES avatar
Hi David,
Many thanks for the warm welcome smile

Yes, I did consider making the point that the entire globe is upside-down and Australia should be at the top smile

Clear skies,

Gary
Shaun Robertson avatar
Welcome Gary,
I'm from Melbourne and I think you'll find the astro community around Oz very supportive and helpful and indeed from around the world on this forum.
Great hobby to be in especially with all the lockdowns and very addictive!
I started on this journey in Feb last year and it's been amazing. Now only if we had more clear skies in Melbourne!

Welcome again and enjoy.

Cheers

Shaun
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Frédéric Auchère avatar
Hi Gary & welcome from France! Pretty much all the way around!
Frédéric
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Bonjour Frédéric smile

Merci beaucoup pour votre aimable accueil - c'est très agréable de rencontrer quelqu'un de l'autre côté du monde smile

Meilleures salutations (et veuillez excuser mon français de lycée).

Gary
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Dale Penkala avatar
Welcome Gary!
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Hi Gary,
Welcome aboard! I'm in Melbourne and a bit further along the Ap journey now, but I found joining my local astronomy club's astrophotography group very helpful. I also found the ASNSW to be active and friendly. Might be worth your while to look them up. [email]astroimaging@asnsw.com[/email]

Cheers & stay safe during lockdown.

Andy
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Andrew Murrell avatar
Hello Gary

Welcome to the fun of Astronomy, getting cold and having little sleep is normal. There is a very large Astronomy community in Sydney and surrounding areas with several clubs, depending on where you live. The ASNSWI is the largest of the clubs and they have some good facilities and properties from which to observe.  I am from the Central Coast at Umina and we have a pretty good sky from here, and some great spots to set up a scope.
Andrew
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Shaun Robertson:
Welcome Gary,
I'm from Melbourne and I think you'll find the astro community around Oz very supportive and helpful and indeed from around the world on this forum.
Great hobby to be in especially with all the lockdowns and very addictive!
I started on this journey in Feb last year and it's been amazing. Now only if we had more clear skies in Melbourne!

Welcome again and enjoy.

Cheers

Shaun

Hi Shaun,
Many thanks for your warm welcome - and apologies for taking so long to reply.

Yes, Salvatore has created an amazing community on AstroBin - the support I've received on the forum has been amazing, and I'm pleased to have been able to share some of my experiences with others

And yes, this is a very addictive hobby !

My next challenge is to produce an image as good as the one you posted today of M17

Cheers,

Gary
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Dale Penkala:
Welcome Gary!

Hi Dale,
Many thanks for your kind welcome ...

I enjoyed looking at some of your images - particularly the solar eclipse and the Needle Galaxy - very nice

Gary
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Andrew Murrell:
Hello Gary

Welcome to the fun of Astronomy, getting cold and having little sleep is normal. There is a very large Astronomy community in Sydney and surrounding areas with several clubs, depending on where you live. The ASNSWI is the largest of the clubs and they have some good facilities and properties from which to observe.  I am from the Central Coast at Umina and we have a pretty good sky from here, and some great spots to set up a scope.
Andrew

Hi Andrew,
Many thanks for your welcome

Yes, Ive become used to being out in the cold late at night, luckily the Spring weather is here so things are a bit warmer, but the nights are shorter ....

I've actually joined ASNSW - they are a great club and have a great community, also the NSAS, which has a new observing facility in a Bortle 4/5 zone in Terrey Hills - only an hour from Umina if you'd like to come and join us

Clear skies,

Gary
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Gary JONES:
Dale Penkala:
Welcome Gary!

Hi Dale,
Many thanks for your kind welcome ...

I enjoyed looking at some of your images - particularly the solar eclipse and the Needle Galaxy - very nice

Gary

Thank you Gary!

Dale
Scott Lockwood avatar
Welcome Gary from smoky sunny southern California.
Careful, learning curves ahead.
Scott
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Hi Scott,
Many thanks for the warm welcome - I understand its always sunny in California

We've been watching the news about the wildfires up north and around San Mateo - hopefully you're not impacted,
definitely not good conditions for observing.

Yes - curves ahead for sure
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Hey Gary
 4 years may be a little optimistic. I've been at this since 1993 and still am learning.
Fires are way north but getting some smoke.
Scott
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Thats just to learn the fundamentals - like pointing your OTA in the right direction

The rest is more like this ...

Hopefully the curve will begin to flatten out at some point
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Stuart Taylor avatar
Hi Gary

Greetings from Oxford, UK and welcome to Astrobin. You are right, Salvatore has made a wonderful site. It's not like any of the others. I absolutely love it here. There are so many incredibly knowledgeable people here and they are all very happy to help newbies like you and me. I've been really impressed with just how friendly everyone is.

Your post is great, as it perfectly describes the steepness of the learning curve for anyone wanting to get into observing or astrophotography. I also totally get the frustration that most resources seem to assume you are in the northern hemisphere. There sure is a lot to learn in this hobby, but the great thing is that the people in it are wonderful, so you will learn very fast.

One warning though... it's going to eat into your wallet like crazy. There is always 'that one more thing you just have to get and then you'll have all you need' But it never really stops. There is always more stuff to get. 

Anyway. Look forward to discussing stuff with you, as I am also a new boy on the block!

Stuart

PS I envy where you live. Sydney is a fantastic city!
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Gary JONES avatar
Hi Stuart,
Many thaks for your, friendly post … and greeting from Down Under - on the other side of the world !

Yes, AstroBin is a great site and like you,Ive connected with lost of friendly, helpful people.
And yes, I'm always thinking 'OK, maybe now I need another  filter, or an automatic focusser, or a bigger telescope' smile

But - Im having a great time learning - I admit it is a very humbling experience to get an image of something you never knew was there, and is so big it takes a thousand years for light to get from one side to the other.

Thanks also for the nice compliment about Sydney - yes, it is a great place to live smile

Gary
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Hello Gary, and welcome to the world of all things ‘off-planet’! You’re at the best place for astronomy in all its aspects, with an entire community that feels the same as you about the night sky. We all still have that wonderful anticipative excitement seeing the sun go down on a cloudless sky - it never goes away, and hopefully never will. Whatever advice you need, whatever questions you have, you’ll get more responses than I think you’re ready for, and all from people who’ve ‘been there’ and ‘done that’, or are currently doing it, so be ready for a wonderful journey. Welcome, again. 

- - Steve Solon in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, US
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