Band Across Sensor

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David Trimble avatar
Hello

I own a 367C Pro and lately I have noted a band of what appears to be vignetting from light leaking into the optical train. Always across the top part of the sensor. Any ideas?
Ben Koltenbah avatar
David:

I'm sure you'll get lots of good advice and suggestions on this forum.  Let me suggest that you'll need to do some troubleshooting and supply more information in order to solicit the most helpful advice.  Do you have a picture of your optical assembly that you could post?  That would help to visualize what may be going on here.

I'll begin with a quick and easy investigation for light leaks that I first do in these circumstances.  With the scope in a darkened environment (darkened room, outside at night, etc.), cover or close it up the best you can, but you'll need to keep the optical train uncovered.  This may work in daytime, but the test is best done in the dark.  Start taking frames with your camera, and move a bright light source (flashlight, headlamp, etc.), closely around all the seams and potential places where light comes in.  This is often a good way to pinpoint light leaks.

Watch the images from your camera and look for glowing from light leaks.  If you find something, a quick fix is Gaffer's tape (or something like that).  Cover the offending area with the tape and then check again.  Keep doing this until you are satisfied that no light is infiltrating from the various optics pieces.  Some of my oldest hardware is now almost fully entombed in Gaffer's tape but still works reliably.

If that doesn't work, then you will need to continue your troubleshooting.  I recommend that you start with this and then post your findings.  Otherwise, some others may chime in with other suggestions.

Best Regards,
Ben
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David Trimble avatar
Here is a picture of the optical train.

David Trimble avatar
It is a M54 diameter optical train with a QHY-M off access guider. I have some vignetting in the corners and I can understand that but it is the band across the sensor that is driving me crazy. Also, no matter how I rotate the camera to the optical train that band is still there which makes me think it is some noise that is integral to the camera itself?
Ben Koltenbah avatar
David:

Your original post mentioned concerns about light leaks.  Have you checked for them yet?  The method I recommended can be done relatively quickly.  I would definitely do this check and then post the results.  I see lots of seams and areas where light could be leaking in.  The test will either pinpoint troublesome spots or eliminate them as a cause.

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Ben
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David Trimble avatar
I placed a black cloth shroud around the entire optical train and ended up with the same issue. The artifact remained.
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David:

I'm still suspicious you have a light leak that you haven't found yet …

However, if you are convinced that you have eliminated light leaks as the source of the bright band in the optical train, then I recommend you take the camera completely off the scope and start running diagnostics on it.  What do bias and dark frames look like?  If these show the glowing band, then you likely have a sensor or electronics issue.  You may need to take several frames to form a master bias and master dark to definitively perform this diagnostic.

Don't refer to old bias or dark frames.  Take fresh ones.  Take them with the cooler on and with the same camera settings (mode / bias / offset / bin size / etc.) as the lights.  For the most convincing test, don't take fresh bias and dark frames with the camera on the scope.  This is a diagnostic of the camera itself, and therefore isolating it from the rest of your equipment removes any possibility of something else interfering with the test.  Cover the sensor, put it in a dark room or at least keep it very well-shrouded.

Looking forward to seeing what fresh bias and dark frames look like under these conditions …

Ben
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