Smoothness of RA motion on a one second timescale in mounts . What is normal?

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Tim Hawkes avatar
I suspect that I might have a continuing problem with an RA oscillation in the movement of my Ioptron CEM70?  It can be an explanation for Eccentric star shapes elongated along the RA axis direction.  Interested to know if others have experienced or detected anything similar in their mounts?

Previously ....in an earlier-model  CEM70 mount - now returned -  at about 1s intervals there was a regular rapid ~ 1.5-2 arcsec detour in RA that then quickly settled  back to the mean until the next cycle on the following second.  This appeared to distribute some of the light along the RA axis making stars  appear elliptical.   The problem did not show up in PHD2 guiding because that only resolves movement on a 2-3s timescale .

I only discovered this RA oscillation after carrying out quite a few experiments a couple of years ago with the first CEM70 mount that I had before it was replaced (much to their credit and without any fuss by First Light Optics)  - the problem with the first  being 1.5-2 arcsec oscilations accompanied by a faint clicking sound.

When imaging 'normally'  at resolutions above 1.0  arcsec / pixel the problem was hardly visible in terms of its effect upon star shape.  However down at 0.4-0.5 arcsec pixel the problem  became more obvious with star shape Eccentricities averaging at 0.5 - 0.6  and r of PSFs ~ 0.8- 0.85 across the field.   

Interested to know if this second-scale oscillation in RA  movement was just a freak occurence with my particular set up -- or something that others have seen too


Tim

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I thought it might possibly also be useful to append some parts of a presentation I did on the original diagnosis of the problem?  The set up was a PDS200  (f=1000 mm)  on the original CEM70 mount  and movements monitored with an ASI294 MM camera at 2.315 u pixel size.  Hopefully it is self explanatory ... I used the  grid of sensor pixels to track what the scope and mount were doing every 100ms over a 60s period.
















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This is an orphan thread – but a quick update and a correction just  in case anyone had logged it. 

I do not in fact appear to have the same oscillation problem with the new CEM70 mount as  with the original.   Although the star shape problem with elongation along the RA axis appeared similar the cause appears to have been different this time.

Suddenly I am back to round stars with Eccentricity < 0.4 .   Not at all sure of the cause of the ongoing problem earlier this year but the changes were  –

1) Fine tuning the mount balance in 3D  – attaching weights to the telescope to get everything just right  -  this may have been additionally imporatant because I was pushing the mount weight limits for imaging.

2) The sudden return of better skies – brighter images, less high cloud stiller air?

Tim
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