What are you up to?

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Daniel Petzen avatar
Hi everyone

I can't help being curious as to what other NZ astronomers are up to.

I just had a marathon with four nights of clear skies and I want mad. I kept record and saw that I racked up a total of 1,532 minutes of exposures (25 1/2 hours). I was so tired that I overslept the last night and had to get the telescope in when the sun was shining :-)

I got into shooting galaxies before I had the marathon, so that is what I started with, but the moon completely ruined my first night, so I switched to nebulae and planetary nebulae after that, which worked better.

My favourite part, the Large Magellanic Cloud, is getting lower and lower, so I'm exploring other areas of the sky now.

What is your favourite objects at this time of year?

Cheers,
Dan
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HarryMosher avatar
I'll probably try to shoot the 12P comet at some point, seems like there's still quite an interesting tail at the moment, not sure how long that'll last for
Brian Boyle avatar
Doing an all-southern sky (well at least the bits that are accessible in May from -45 and above the mountains) with a Sigma Art 40mm lens.
Daniel Petzen avatar
I'll probably try to shoot the 12P comet at some point, seems like there's still quite an interesting tail at the moment, not sure how long that'll last for

I'm glad I asked, as I just assumed that 12P was only visible from the Northern hemisphere!

My default reaction to astronomy news is "Intersting. Great for 'them'" :-)

I would LOVE to image a comet. I've never done that before.

I've made sure to follow you and will keep an eye out!
Daniel Petzen avatar
Brian Boyle:
Doing an all-southern sky (well at least the bits that are accessible in May from -45 and above the mountains) with a Sigma Art 40mm lens.

Ah, interesting. I have my partners SDLR at the moment. I was looking at it thinking "It would be pretty cool to take a long wide angle exposure...". I'll definitely have to give that a try.
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I've been capturing data on galaxy NGC  3521 (the Bubble galaxy) with my main rig (a 10 inch aperture CDK - Corrected Dall-Kirkham on a 10Micron Eq mount), while also getting some images of Comet Pons-Brooks just after dark with my little ZWO Seestar S50 smartscope, from our Bay of Plenty location. Image below of the comet off the little Seestar with minimal extra processing, just an increase in contrast, saturation, and some noise reduction. Seestar stack of 6 minutes of 20 sec exposures. Both the dust tail and plasma tail nicely visible.

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Daniel Petzen avatar
I've been capturing data on galaxy NGC  3521 (the Bubble galaxy) with my main rig (a 10 inch aperture CDK - Corrected Dall-Kirkham on a 10Micron Eq mount), while also getting some images of Comet Pons-Brooks just after dark with my little ZWO Seestar S50 smartscope, from our Bay of Plenty location. Image below of the comet off the little Seestar with minimal extra processing, just an increase in contrast, saturation, and some noise reduction. Seestar stack of 6 minutes of 20 sec exposures. Both the dust tail and plasma tail nicely visible.


That is very impressive!

I've seen a few reviews and it's definitely the direction astrophotography will head in.

I did enjoy the ballet tonight, but I arrived home, rushing to get my equipment set up, just as low clouds and fog rolled in. You have to be social occasionally... ;-)

It looks like I'll get a few hours after dark tomorrow, so I'll clue myself up on Pons-Brooks and give it a try tomorrow.

Bubble Galaxy? I had that on my target list, but I gave it a miss as it looked like a difficult target to get good images of.

I checkout out your gallery. Wow. Hehe. Very impressive. I'll have a proper look later.
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morrienz avatar
Daniel Petzen:
I've been capturing data on galaxy NGC  3521 (the Bubble galaxy) with my main rig (a 10 inch aperture CDK - Corrected Dall-Kirkham on a 10Micron Eq mount), while also getting some images of Comet Pons-Brooks just after dark with my little ZWO Seestar S50 smartscope, from our Bay of Plenty location. Image below of the comet off the little Seestar with minimal extra processing, just an increase in contrast, saturation, and some noise reduction. Seestar stack of 6 minutes of 20 sec exposures. Both the dust tail and plasma tail nicely visible.


That is very impressive!

I've seen a few reviews and it's definitely the direction astrophotography will head in.

I did enjoy the ballet tonight, but I arrived home, rushing to get my equipment set up, just as low clouds and fog rolled in. You have to be social occasionally... ;-)

It looks like I'll get a few hours after dark tomorrow, so I'll clue myself up on Pons-Brooks and give it a try tomorrow.

Bubble Galaxy? I had that on my target list, but I gave it a miss as it looked like a difficult target to get good images of.

I checkout out your gallery. Wow. Hehe. Very impressive. I'll have a proper look later.

Thanks. I'll let you know how the NGC 3521/bubble galaxy imaging goes. I might have enough data now to stack/process it today. I'll inspect/check out how good my subexposures look today first though, as I had an poorly working autofocus issue that might have wrecked some of one night of them, and one other night got quite hazy. If a chunk of my exposures don't look good enough I might get some more hours of data on it yet as we have 2 or 3 clear (and chilly) nights coming in a row. Haven't been to a ballet since I was a kid, when I used to go along with my mum, but will be going with my wife to an Opera in a few weeks.
Brian Boyle avatar
I should add for the last 9months I have been busy putting together an application to have Kawarau Gibbston recognised as an international Dark Sky Park.  
Delighted to say that our success in gaining this certification was announced this morning…
Daniel Petzen avatar
Brian Boyle:
I should add for the last 9months I have been busy putting together an application to have Kawarau Gibbston recognised as an international Dark Sky Park.  
Delighted to say that our success in gaining this certification was announced this morning...

Congratulations! Well done!
morrienz avatar
I've been capturing data here in our rural backyard in the Bay of Plenty over the past 3 weeks or so on the "Bubble" nebula, NGC 3521in Leo and have captured/stacked 25 or so hours of data, stacked with Astro Pixel Processor, and processed that into this final image with Pixinsight. Captured with my 250mm/1450 mm Beamtech (Aussie made) CDK250 Corrected Dall Kirkham cassegrain OTA on my 10Micron GM1000 HPS mount and a ZWO Asiair Plus device. Full details at this link.   https://www.astrobin.com/k9t9dd/C/#  I've also stacked lots of data on this same object at the same time with my little ZWO Seestar S50 smartscope and need to stack/process that now too

Daniel Petzen avatar
Nice one @morrienz !

Wow, 25h integration. Very impressive, and it definitely paid off. It looks really "alive" with the clouds of nebolosity and all.

I'm still getting the hang of things, but I decided on a project early on and will gather up as much integration time as possible of N70 aka Henize 70 in the large Magellanic cloud. I'm just fascinated by this object. A combination of low altitide and generation of flat frames has prevented that from bearing fruit so far :-(
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Sam Badcock avatar
Hello all, new to the group here and also to astrobin!! Based in the might manawatu, started doing DSLR nebula imagery but have moved straight onto a 2600mm (like a challenge) 

I'm slowly getting there with uploading finished images!! There's a few DSLR images I need to find and upload but for now my recent image of The Fighting Dragons of Ara in SHO palette is my current project!! That revision you see on my astrobin page is 4hrs 15minutes worth and I've just pretty much doubled my image data so now have 8hrs in total!! Shooting again tonight for more data so will see what I manage to get but the 8hour lot has been stacked and I'm about to colourise it in SHO and see what I can do!! I may not post it until the final revision!!

Kinda lucky this winter has been pretty mild and theres been a good bunch of cloudless night!!

Hope everyone's ticking along well

Clear skies!!

- Sam
Daniel Petzen avatar
Hi Sam

Stunning images!

Are those from a 62ED? Wow. I love the sharpness and colours.

I'm in Stokes Valley myself.

I made the mistake to go for an SCT, so everything is overshadowed by guiding precision. An absolute nightmare.

I was seconds away from taking the step into refractors and hitting the 'Submit' button on buying a Askar 107PHQ before my senses caught up and I realised I couldn't afford it.

I just spent 2-3 weeks rebuilding my mount and I'm now doing adjustments. I need to get to below 0.5" RMS, but it's bordering on the impossible. I had a few hours of good guiding a couple of days ago. I just processed the first image (NGC 6753) and it came out great. It just finished uploading: https://astrob.in/dwj0kj/0/

It's great to hear what fellow kiwis are up to!

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Dan
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Sam Badcock avatar
Hi Dan,

Yeah both those images are from a 62ED, won it in a Sky Watcher giveaway over Xmas/New Years haha

I used to be based in Woodridge/Newlands up until a couple months ago when I moved to Otaki!! Have to say the weather up here is much more consistent for the better!!

How do you rebuild your mount to get better guiding?? Like I'm averaging around 1-2" rms error even with a "almost perfect" PA??

Cheers
- Sam
Daniel Petzen avatar
Hey Sam

Your 62ED pictures really got me thinking. I spent a silly amount of time doing research into smaller refractors. I've homed in on Askar 71F, which is a 71mm f/7 flat field Petzval Quadruple with a single ED glass. I'm in the balance as to what I should get.

I have an Skywatcher EQ6 Pro (not the EQ6-R Pro). I actually do get around 1" RMS error and often 0.75" on a good night, but that is not enough for my 2350mm f/10 SCT. I did both the belt conversion (NEQ6-Belt-Kit.pdf (firstlightoptics.com)) and the zero backlash modification (NEQ6-ZB-WormMount.pdf (firstlightoptics.com)).

There may be kits for your mount as well. I said "No way!" for a long time, as it seemed way to complicated, but a friend from Wellington Astronomical Society talked me into it and it was tricky but complete doable (exactly as he said). There are great guides and videos.

The jury is till out. I have a lot of tuning to do. I was tracking at 0.43" for some 15 minutes and then stayed below 0.5" (that was how I got that incredibly detailed image of NGC 6753), only to then get 1.5"-2" mayhem after the meridian flip.

I need a high precision mount. I may get away with a iOptron GEM40EC that "only" costs less that $10k, but that is not going to happen any time soon, so that is one of the reasons I want a faster telescope with a shorter focal length.

Planetary season is coming up, so I may repurpose my SCT for planetary photography.

On a side note, I almost bought a plot of land in the darkest part of Alfredton (bortle 2, bordering on Bortle 1), but there was a covenant that required to preserve the area in a way that made future development impossible, so I had to walk away. I was gutted :-)

Cheers,
Dan
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Sam Badcock avatar
Hi Dan,

Man that's guttering about the covenant on that land in Alfredton!! That would have been a primo area for this hobby as it's not really that far from Eketahuna for basic living things!! Have carted a few loads of Macrocarpa logs out of there to Wellington port, nice quiet area and I did have the same thought one day when I was out there!! Pirinoa would be another good area, though I haven't had a decent look at the light pollution for south wairarapa!! I prefer the western side of the ranges like manawatu/kapiti etc

An AM5 is on my list for my next mount and probably going to keep my SWSA GTi as a wide field (600mm and under) mount but for now, I might look into upgrades to get better guiding!!

I've come across a similar situation with the guiding you mentioned after a meridian flip!! I always let it recalibrate after a flip and I generally get slightly better guiding, 1-2" rms before and .8-1.2" rms after but it never last and it goes back to bouncing between 1-2" rms!! It doesn't really bother me too much, yeah I may have to throw away a few extra frames but it does mean in post processing I have to rely on BlurXterminator to clean up the stars and make them nice and round as I generally include frames with ever so slight elongated stars!!

With the 62ED I do employ the .9x reducer/flattener which cost a little bit extra!! Compared to my DSLR lenses I was using before hand it's alot sharper but that could also be due to a much better performing dedicated astro cam compared to a DSLR!! Didn't pay a cent for the scope but regardless, I'm happy with the results I'm getting, just with I had one with more focal length!! I am looking at getting the Sky Watcher Evostar 80ED (600mm f7.5) and the Evostar 100ED (900mm f9) but until funds are available, I'm stuck with the 62ED

Here's a question for ya though, I see on YouTube from astrophotographers on there that they go to star parties etc and I saw there was one in aussie not long ago but they all tend to be in the states (go figure) but is there anything similar that happens in NZ or is it another case of us being too small a country??

Cheers,
Sam
Daniel Petzen avatar
Hi Sam

Yes, I'm really disappointed it didn't work out with the plot of land. I like that side of the Remutakas, as it normally means really good weather with clear skies. The Wairarapa  has been declared dark sky reserve, so it has a few very good areas. This was in one of them. It gets even better at the coast, where it drops down to Bortle 1. Well, I'll keep looking.

I do see a lot of logging trucks on their way to Wellington port, though!

I know the strain wave mounts are all the rage now, but they're not that much more accurate. I also see that the price of the old type of mounts may drop, so there could be an opportunity to pick up a really good mount for a low price.

I wouldn't be in too much of a rush to upgrade, as you have a great camera and getting amazing results.

I did pick up on the star party in Aussie. I follow Dylan O'Donnell who started that. I don't know of any good astronomy events in NZ. I get my fix from Wellington Astronomical Society. I've not been able to go to the monthly meetups for a long time, but I've had so much help from several members that I owe them, well,  it's thanks to them I'm still doing astronomy. I would have given up without their help. They've been amazing.

I think we're big enough for a proper astronomy event. There may be one that I'm not aware of. I'm even tempted to arrange one if there isn't one. I'm sure WAS would have people who would be keen.

– Dan
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