I want to sell my older equipment to a beginner. Suggestions?

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Ralph Haines avatar
I have progressed over the years and would like to sell my old equipment to a beginner to astrophotography.

Sony A6000 mirrorless camera (with kit lens 16-50mm)
S-M-C/Super Takumar 200mm F4 lens with Sony adapter
Sky-Watcher Star Adventurer 2i Pro Pack with counterweight
Neewer carbon fiber tripod
Misc equipment: ballhead, red dot finder, dummy battery, batteries….

Open on pricing, would like to encourage a newbie.
Any suggestions on where to post this?
Jeramie avatar
I have had the best luck selling my older equipment on the Cloudy Nights classifieds section. 

CS!

Jeramie
Dan Kearl avatar
Most of this equipment is standard photography stuff except the Star tracker.
I just sold a lot of used DSLR equipment, (Nikon D500s, Carbon tripod, lens) on Ebay in a week.
I also sold my Star adventurer pro pack on Ebay quickly.
50% off for used equipment even in Excellent condition is usually the starting point for buyers.
Real astro equipment right now like Scopes and cameras sell for more than that although I 
put my Williams 71 GT scope for sale on this site and got Zero replies…
I will probably put it for sale on Ebay.
Zwo just had 25% off on a lot of equipment so the Astro market must be softening..
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Dale Penkala avatar
Cloudy Nights is a great place to list them as well as Astromart’s Classified Section.

Cloudy Nights is Free and Astromart has a 15.00 annual fee.

https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/

https://astromart.com/classifieds

Dale
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Norman Tajudin avatar
Dale Penkala:
Cloudy Nights is a great place to list them as well as Astromart’s Classified Section.

Cloudy Nights is Free and Astromart has a 15.00 annual fee.

https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/

https://astromart.com/classifieds

Dale
@Salvatore Iovene

I would second Dale’s suggestion of both CN and AM. I’ve bought and sold a ton of gear over the years on both platforms. As a matter of fact, most of my current setups come from both platforms!
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George Hatfield avatar
I've sold a lot of stuff on both Cloudy Nights and Astromart.  One potential problem you could have in focusing on beginners is that they may not have any ratings from previous purchases.  Selling something worth several hundred dollars (for example) to a complete stranger has more risks as opposed to selling to someone who has even a few 5-star ratings.   I'm still not sure how to handle "not rated" buyers.  I've thought about asking for some sort of ID, but had second thoughts in that it might be too intrusive.  Of course, if the "not rated" buyer offers ID and even recommendations from others, that is a very good sign.  I have had zero problems in selling many, many items.  

As far as pricing goes,   I've often used the general rule that a used item, in like new condition, can be priced at about 70% of what you paid for it.  Needless to say, this is a general rule.  Check recent ads for the same item you are selling to see what others are asking for it.  And if it does not sell in a week, reduce the price. 

George
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Scott Horton avatar
Completely agree wtih CN and AM - I have had great experiences on both the selling and buying end of these classified sections. If you want to part the camera gear - I would recommend getting a quote and selling to MPB or listing on Fred Miranda classifieds. 
Good luck!
Bob Lockwood avatar
George Hatfield:
I'm still not sure how to handle "not rated" buyers.  I've thought about asking for some sort of ID, but had second thoughts in that it might be too intrusive.  Of course, if the "not rated" buyer offers ID and even recommendations from others, that is a very good sign.  I have had zero problems in selling many, many items.


For me, this is not the case. It's the buyer rated or not that's taking the risk buying from a seller that has no ratings. Once you have received funds, it's the buyer that is hopping you're an honest seller. I have sold many items to buyers that have never purchased anything before, there the risk taker. Once the transaction has been completed, I leave them good rating as a first-time buyer.
George Hatfield avatar
Bob Lockwood:
George Hatfield:
I'm still not sure how to handle "not rated" buyers.  I've thought about asking for some sort of ID, but had second thoughts in that it might be too intrusive.  Of course, if the "not rated" buyer offers ID and even recommendations from others, that is a very good sign.  I have had zero problems in selling many, many items.


For me, this is not the case. It's the buyer rated or not that's taking the risk buying from a seller that has no ratings. Once you have received funds, it's the buyer that is hopping you're an honest seller. I have sold many items to buyers that have never purchased anything before, there the risk taker. Once the transaction has been completed, I leave them good rating as a first-time buyer.

I agree that once the seller has his/her money, the risk becomes low in dealing with a "not rated" buyer.  But I learned from my latest round of selling that PayPal no longer automatically releases the payment for transfer into your bank account.  This is especially true for expensive items (e.g., >$1000).  First, PayPal wants proof of delivery, which can be obtained from shipping tracking info.  But what if you deliver the item (e.g., something delicate and heavy)?  Then, one has to get the buyer to sign into Paypal and acknowledge receipt of the item.  Then, they may impose a limit on how much can be transferred per month or some other period.  Paypal is no longer as simple as it once was.  In the future, I will avoid using them.  What I worry about from "not rated" buyers is that some minor or nonexistent "problem" will be claimed with the item, and then PayPal will not release the money.  Anyway, as you noted, problems are very rare in my experience with Astromart or Cloudy Nights.
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Scott Lockwood avatar
George Hatfield:
Bob Lockwood:
George Hatfield:
I'm still not sure how to handle "not rated" buyers.  I've thought about asking for some sort of ID, but had second thoughts in that it might be too intrusive.  Of course, if the "not rated" buyer offers ID and even recommendations from others, that is a very good sign.  I have had zero problems in selling many, many items.


For me, this is not the case. It's the buyer rated or not that's taking the risk buying from a seller that has no ratings. Once you have received funds, it's the buyer that is hopping you're an honest seller. I have sold many items to buyers that have never purchased anything before, there the risk taker. Once the transaction has been completed, I leave them good rating as a first-time buyer.

I agree that once the seller has his/her money, the risk becomes low in dealing with a "not rated" buyer.  But I learned from my latest round of selling that PayPal no longer automatically releases the payment for transfer into your bank account.  This is especially true for expensive items (e.g., >$1000).  First, PayPal wants proof of delivery, which can be obtained from shipping tracking info.  But what if you deliver the item (e.g., something delicate and heavy)?  Then, one has to get the buyer to sign into Paypal and acknowledge receipt of the item.  Then, they may impose a limit on how much can be transferred per month or some other period.  Paypal is no longer as simple as it once was.  In the future, I will avoid using them.  What I worry about from "not rated" buyers is that some minor or nonexistent "problem" will be claimed with the item, and then PayPal will not release the money.  Anyway, as you noted, problems are very rare in my experience with Astromart or Cloudy Nights.

All these PayPal issues mentioned here go away if you use Friends and Family. I think it's the best way to go.
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George Hatfield avatar
I have always thought that using "Friends and Family" is against PayPal rules for merchandise sales.   I play by the rules even if I don't like them.  Using F&F, to me, is cheating PP out of their rightful (and excessive) commission.   Wrong?

George
Scott Lockwood avatar
George Hatfield:
I have always thought that using "Friends and Family" is against PayPal rules for merchandise sales.   I play by the rules even if I don't like them.  Using F&F, to me, is cheating PP out of their rightful (and excessive) commission.   Wrong?

George

I went through this with PayPay a few months ago. I sent money through the regular fee-based channel and the seller was not given access to my payment until after I was going to receive the item I was buying and signed a release. This is a new policy. This does not sit well with the seller having to send what they are selling before getting payment. Upon contacting PayPal about why my payment was not being released to the seller, I was told about the new policy. PayPal said to use Friends and Family as this was a sale between two private parties and not with a commensal dealer. This would not put a hold on the funds, which can last as long as 4 weeks. So, Friends and Family is not breaking the rules when used between private parties. 

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George Hatfield avatar
Thanks for the clarification.  

George
George Hatfield avatar
Of course, I had to confirm this with PayPal.   

Here is my question to them.  "I am confused about using friends and family for a payment for "goods" with another noncommercial party. Can FF be used for such a transaction?  For example, if I sell a telescope to another person as a private sale, can F&F be used?"

Response from PayPal:  "Hi George, I hope you're doing well today! Thank you for contacting PayPal Messaging and being a valued customer. I appreciate your patience waiting for my response, this is Nove and I'm here to make sure you have the best experience with us. Thanks for working with our automated PayPal Assistant and providing your information. I'm happy to assist you.Actually, yes you can use Family and Friends specially if you know the person. However, for the transactions involving items or services we will always recommend processing it as goods and services so that if anything happens in the transaction it is going to be covered with PayPal purchase Protection.Feel free to reply whenever you're ready and we'll reply as soon as we can."

I wonder if I can get a refund of all those PP fees I have paid over the years?

George
Bob Lockwood avatar
Wishful thinking,

Keep in mind that if you use PayPal "goods and services" you need to be aware of Taxes. As per PP, I read that the tax threshold for 2023 was $20,000 before you would get 1099'd. That has dropped to $5000 for 2024, again, as per PP, and there trying to get it down to $600.   

Something to keep in mind if you feel the need to use PP G&S.