Long Barlows

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astropical avatar
According to my understanding a 4x or 5x barlow would me meaningless for the resolution power of a 6-inch F5 Newtonian. On the other hand, I read that many adore the quality of Teleview Powermate barlows. No offense intended but are they really that much better than say a comparable 100 dollar barlow?
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Robert
Jérémie avatar
Not an expert, but I would say these are two differents topics : the notion of resolution of a scope is based of the capacity of your scope, given its diameter, to distinguish two separate punctual light sources. Diffraction makes punctual light sources interfere with themselves and between themselves, and they appear as two superposed Airy disks. The larger the diameter, the better you can distinguish the two « centers » of the Airy disk. So the notion of resolution is already a bit of arbitrary, as there is a loss of contrast between the two are they are merging (at what point do you consider you can still resolve them ?). So the formulas you get to calculate the resolution of your scope are setup making assumptions on what you consider to be sufficient contrast between the peaks to « resolve » them.
Now, that doesn’t mean that details that have a lower size than the resolution of the scope can’t be seen : we can see the Saturn’s Cassini separation of its ring while it is smaller than the resolution of many scopes, because most of these details are not punctual light sources, but zones of contrast (Cassini separation appears as a dark ring on very bright rings).
That’s why you can still catch smaller details with high magnification Barlow lenses, and with proper process of images (lucky imaging + proper sharpening of these zones of contrast), and the better these Barlow lens are made (in terms of transmission of light, absence of optical abberations etc…smile the best images you will get, whatever the resolution of your scope is.
But of courses, coming back to punctual light sources, you won’t be able to resolve double stars system for example if the diameter of your scope is not sufficient, whatever Barlow you use.
Hope this helps a bit :-)
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Fritz avatar
Hello Robert,

You are right, the resoultion will stay the same. Think of it like a spyglass. As for the quality: The Teleview Powermates are telecentric. That means they have a flattened FOV and the distance between Barlow and camera does not change the magnifying factor.

I started out with a cheapo Barlow and changed soon to a telecentric one. It made all the difference in the world.

HTH, cheers,
Fritz
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Stephan Linhart avatar
There are huge difference between Barlow Lenses. Still there is good equipment available for 100 bucks. But you cannot generalize, look at various sites where people did comparisons.

​​​As @Fritz  mentioned, the powermates are telecentric designs. But still some of the models are affected by the distance between Barlow and sensor. Especially the 4x barlow if I remember right. On the Televue website there is a graph that shows the details.
https://www.televue.com/engine/TV3b_page.asp?id=53&Tab=_app

I use a 2x Powermate and a 2.8x University Klee Barlow, which is not made anymore.

Best,

Stephan
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To add to the above I use the 2.8x Balrow @4x factor as I increased the distance between Barlow Element and Sensor.
Firecapture will help you to find out the resulting focal length on Planets. It takes the diameter of the planet and the pixel size of the Camera to calculate. Maybe not dead accurate but a pretty good value one can work with.
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@Jérémie Ochin, it helped a lot, thanks so much for the heads up !
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@Stephan Linhart, thanks a lot, this is valuable reference!
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@Fritz, telecentric... this totally escaped my attention, thanks so much!