imx571 owners: what's your flats' target ADU?

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How many ADU?
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Paolo avatar
I've seen a YouTube video where an owner of an imx571 camera had better results shooting flats at 20k ADU compared to 30k ADU.
Now I'm curious, how high do you aim for your flats?
I'm currently at 47% with +-5% tolerance.
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Brian Puhl avatar
I use Nina flat wizard and aim for 10% tolerance at 50% histo.

I've had success with 20% tolerance as well.
Reg Pratt avatar
600-800 ADU otherwise I get nasty reflections in the calibrated lights.
Shinpah avatar
Flat frame calibration should in theory be relatively agnostic to the brightness of the individual flat frames. In practice this can not be the case depending on improper flat calibration, sensor linearity, and other non-IMX571 in camera correction issues that could arise.

For your camera I won't expect you notice any issues taking low ADU or high ADU flat frames.

My risingcam571, for example, has a high full well mode where it won't record any ADU values above 45,000~. If you take flat frames and have loose tolerance settings this can lead to essentially the middle ADU values being all clipped.
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Rick Veregin avatar
No matter what your camera, it is not just the average adu you need to worry about. What you need to be sure of is that all of your histogram is in the linear range.

Modern CMOS cameras are very linear, so as far as adu limits, you only need to be in that range, you should be pretty safe if the entire histogram is between 10% and 90% of your 65000 adu.
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But note the critical point is that the full histogram needs to be in this range. If you are using a mono camera based on this sensor, just make sure the bottom and top of your histogram are within this range, centering it anywhere near 32 K should be fine. But always check your histogram. If corner vignetting is bad, so corners are dark, you may want to set higher, as long as the highest points of the histogram are in range you are okay.

For color cameras, it is more complex, it depends on your flat panel. Generally the red or blue channel will be weak, the green strong. So looking at your histogram, make sure all color histograms are within this linear range. 

Note it is better if your light source for flats is not too bright, there can be extra reflections with a bright source. I do have this sensor and find I can use the same gain with my flats, with exposures of about 1/10 to 1/2 second depending on the filter. Again, my settings are based on the histogram, the point being is a really bright light source for your flats is not a good idea. My flat panel is at the lowest brightness, to keep reflections down.

If you follow these rules, I have not had issues with this sensor and flats, with my color camera, which is the stress case.

But note, it is critical, to use a dark flat (as well as darks for you lights) and to match exposure, gain and temperature between your flats and flat darks and lights and darks, if you don't, guaranteed not to get good flats.

Hope this helps
Rick
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Monty Chandler avatar
50% full well at 3 sec exposure - i control the light and thus the exposure time.  A quality calibration library is essential.  Cheers!
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