Reducer for Esprit 120

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What is the best reducer for the esprit 120
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Anderl avatar
Question says it all. 
i am quite happy with my esprit 120. to get the most out of it i am planning to buy a reducer for the telescope. As far as i know there seem to be 2 pretty good ones out there. The riccardi and skywatcher one. Not sure which one to get.
jewzaam avatar
I don't have the reducer yet, may not buy it ever.  But if I were to get one I'd probably get the sky-watcher one simply because it's for the scope.  Note I haven't done any research on how well it performs vs other reducers.
Michael avatar
I bought the Starizona .65x second hand and can say that it's been a major pain in the butt.  Enough for me to go back to native and forget about it.  My vote is for the SW one.  I'm no pro though I just think that .65 is a bit aggressive overall.
Blaine Gibby avatar
I bought the skywatcher flavor because it was designed for the scope and I didn’t want to deal with any back focus issues.  Very happy with it, although if you pixel peep to extreme there is a small amount of coma at a few of the corners. But I would imagine that is the case for any reducer. I never take it off.
Anderl avatar
Blaine Gibby:
I bought the skywatcher flavor because it was designed for the scope and I didn’t want to deal with any back focus issues.  Very happy with it, although if you pixel peep to extreme there is a small amount of coma at a few of the corners. But I would imagine that is the case for any reducer. I never take it off.

Is the coma only visible if using full frame cameras or can it still be seen with apsc size sensors?
Stuart Taylor avatar
I have the Esprit 150 and I am very happy with the SW 0.77 reducer
Jeff Horn avatar
Another vote for the SW 0.77x.  On my 294mm it performs really well.  Haven’t tried it with the 2600.  When I imaged horsehead over the winter, I got a really bad internal reflection with the 1x, but the 0.77x did great.
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Blaine Gibby avatar
Blaine Gibby:
I bought the skywatcher flavor because it was designed for the scope and I didn’t want to deal with any back focus issues.  Very happy with it, although if you pixel peep to extreme there is a small amount of coma at a few of the corners. But I would imagine that is the case for any reducer. I never take it off.

Is the coma only visible if using full frame cameras or can it still be seen with apsc size sensors?



It’s barely visible with an APSC sensor, I use an ASI2600. In my opinion it’s worth the trade off for the faster optics because I just don’t have many clear nights. I would imagine some copies are better than others.
Luc Viatour avatar
I have the x0.77 SW reducer and I'm very happy with it. I'm using a 24x36mm full frame sensor and there is very little vignetting.
Another advantage is that I can use the same backfocus tubes between the corrector and the SW reducer.
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Jeff Horn avatar
Just my my 0.77x reducer back on last night after a year of the 1x flattener.  Didn't notice any vignetting on my 2600mm subs, but will examine integration this weekend.
Luc Viatour avatar
Jeff Horn:
Just my my 0.77x reducer back on last night after a year of the 1x flattener.  Didn't notice any vignetting on my 2600mm subs, but will examine integration this weekend.

with a smaller APS-C sensor there is no vignetting
Stuart Taylor avatar
Blaine Gibby:
Blaine Gibby:
I bought the skywatcher flavor because it was designed for the scope and I didn’t want to deal with any back focus issues.  Very happy with it, although if you pixel peep to extreme there is a small amount of coma at a few of the corners. But I would imagine that is the case for any reducer. I never take it off.

Is the coma only visible if using full frame cameras or can it still be seen with apsc size sensors?



It’s barely visible with an APSC sensor, I use an ASI2600. In my opinion it’s worth the trade off for the faster optics because I just don’t have many clear nights. I would imagine some copies are better than others.

I too use an APS-C sensor (ASI2600) and I am not aware of any vignetting (judging by my flats)
Luc Viatour avatar
Stuart Taylor:
Blaine Gibby:
Blaine Gibby:
I bought the skywatcher flavor because it was designed for the scope and I didn’t want to deal with any back focus issues.  Very happy with it, although if you pixel peep to extreme there is a small amount of coma at a few of the corners. But I would imagine that is the case for any reducer. I never take it off.

Is the coma only visible if using full frame cameras or can it still be seen with apsc size sensors?



It’s barely visible with an APSC sensor, I use an ASI2600. In my opinion it’s worth the trade off for the faster optics because I just don’t have many clear nights. I would imagine some copies are better than others.

I too use an APS-C sensor (ASI2600) and I am not aware of any vignetting (judging by my flats)

I have a larger sensor than APS-C which is why I have a bit of vignetting
and with the original field corrector I have no vignetting even with my 24x36mm sensor.
Al Loan avatar
I have had the .77 reducer with the SW 120 ED APO for about 3 months now. As with any imaging train the back focus  setup is critical with the .77 reducer. It takes a bit of adjusting to obtain good., (round stars to the edge of the image). A 0.2mm spacer, added or removed will reveal a slight change in the image. Once dialed in the .77 is a great addition, I certainly enjoy the slightly larger Field of View.
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