Submitting an image for IOTD/TP consideration results in a green check mark visible in the Edit menu. What if I would like to *remove* a submitted image from the queue for consideration? Is there a convention such as deleting the submitted image revision, moving it to Staging or … other solution?
HOWTO un-Submit for IOTD/TP consideration
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Not at the moment but I can do it for you if you send me details.
Hi Salvatore,
I have a related question —
If I submit an image for IOTD consideration, and then subsequently upload a revised version (and in the process make the revised version the final one), is the revised version considered or only the original?
Thanks
Dan
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“Are image revisions considered in the IOTD/TP process?”
During the time an image is in the IOTD/TP process, the members of the jury will always see the final revision (may it be the original upload or a later revision that has been marked as final).
Adding a final revision to an image does not make it enter the IOTD/TP process again, or start it from the beginning, but it simply replaces what the members of the jury see when they log in to vote.
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I don't think the OP is doing this, but what happens if:
Seems like a way to game the system, no?
- Am image is submitted for IOTD consideration
- The imager realizes that it is not getting traction among submitters
- Asks that it be removed and put back in staging
- Resubmits it with minor changes after a few weeks.
Seems like a way to game the system, no?
How do you know you're getting no traction?
andrea tasselli · Sep 24, 2025, 08:17 PM
How do you know you're getting no traction?
You can see how many votes you're getting via “View IOTD/TP Stats” for your image.
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Salvatore Iovene:andrea tasselli · Sep 24, 2025, 08:17 PM
How do you know you're getting no traction?
You can see how many votes you're getting via “View IOTD/TP Stats” for your image.
Yes, but you may get all the votes you need at the 11th hour and you'd be none the wiser beforehand.
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andrea tasselli · Sep 24, 2025, 08:31 PM
andrea tasselli · Sep 24, 2025, 08:17 PM
How do you know you're getting no traction?
You can see how many votes you're getting via “View IOTD/TP Stats” for your image.
Yes, but you may get all the votes you need at the 11th hour and you'd be none the wiser beforehand.
Alternatively you could see that there are multiple dismissals.
andrea tasselli:
Yes, but you may get all the votes you need at the 11th hour and you'd be none the wiser beforehand.
Could possibly happen, but statistically unlikely. If a submitter selects it, it shows up as a vote; they can retract it later, but you'd see if it was selected. If a couple of days have gone by and you get no votes, it is highly unlikely you will get three votes all of a sudden. Plus, you get to see submitter views as well. So, if you have dozens of views and no selection, it is likely your image is kaput as far as IOTD goes.
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I shan't think so, for (limited, that's true) direct experience.
But let's do a test…
Arun H · Sep 24, 2025, 08:35 PM
Could possibly happen, but statistically unlikely. If a submitter selects it, it shows up as a vote; they can retract it later, but you'd see if it was selected. If a couple of days have gone by and you get no votes, it is highly unlikely you will get three votes all of a sudden.
Statistically quite true but I have seen a couple of mine go from zero to 3 late in the game so it does happen.
This also begs the question as to whether submitters see how many other submitters have promoted an image.
Salvatore Iovene · Sep 24, 2025, 06:36 PM
“Are image revisions considered in the IOTD/TP process?”
During the time an image is in the IOTD/TP process, the members of the jury will always see the final revision (may it be the original upload or a later revision that has been marked as final).
Adding a final revision to an image does not make it enter the IOTD/TP process again, or start it from the beginning, but it simply replaces what the members of the jury see when they log in to vote.
Thank you Salvatore
Bill McLaughlin · Sep 25, 2025, 01:28 AM
Arun H · Sep 24, 2025, 08:35 PM
Could possibly happen, but statistically unlikely. If a submitter selects it, it shows up as a vote; they can retract it later, but you'd see if it was selected. If a couple of days have gone by and you get no votes, it is highly unlikely you will get three votes all of a sudden.
This also begs the question as to whether submitters see how many other submitters have promoted an image.
We do not see that. There are staff notes that we can point out different things in images, good or bad. So in that case we can get an idea if the person writing the note promoted or dismissed it, but that’s about it.
Hello everyone
just as a reference I ask this question, if an image sent to the IOTD has 3 initial votes by submitters (TPN), will it enter the reviews process for TP( correct) During that time, I upload a new image as a revision(mark it as final), which will take the TP process(reviews), the one that won the TPN (momentarily) or the new revision?
Best regards.
CS
Brian
Brian Diaz · Sep 25, 2025, 12:54 PM
Hello everyone
just as a reference I ask this question, if an image sent to the IOTD has 3 initial votes by submitters (TPN), will it enter the reviews process for TP( correct) During that time, I upload a new image as a revision(mark it as final), which will take the TP process(reviews), the one that won the TPN (momentarily) or the new revision?
Best regards.
CS
Brian
The new revision. Even after it’s done with the process, from my understanding is that the revision marked final will keep an award given to an older revision.
Quinn Groessl · Sep 25, 2025, 01:09 PM
Brian Diaz · Sep 25, 2025, 12:54 PM
Hello everyone
just as a reference I ask this question, if an image sent to the IOTD has 3 initial votes by submitters (TPN), will it enter the reviews process for TP( correct) During that time, I upload a new image as a revision(mark it as final), which will take the TP process(reviews), the one that won the TPN (momentarily) or the new revision?
Best regards.
CS
Brian
The new revision. Even after it’s done with the process, from my understanding is that the revision marked final will keep an award given to an older revision.
thank you for the information, but it includes after the process, the question is during the process between TPN and TP
Because if we look at it from one point of view, the image went through the TPN process with one version and then enters the TP process with another revision.
let's imagine for a moment that after going through the TPN process and winning, the new revision that enters the TP reviews is not good, it wouldn't pass, okay, but when the process is over it will win the TPN, and if someone sees it they will say how is it possible that it won, but what they don't know is that it wasn't that version that won days ago.
The curious thing is that it also applies to the process between TP and IOTD.
CS
Brian
Like I said, the revision marked final is shown to submitters/reviewers/judges. I forgot the interval, I believe it’s every 15 minutes the feed is refreshed. So I could be seeing Revision A on my feed, and then a submitter that opens his feed an hour later could be seeing Revision B of the same photo on their feed if the person marked that revision as final during that time.
TPN and TP isn’t awarded until the image is finished in the queues, so yes, it’s possible if the image’s author timed it right that submitters would see one image, and reviewers would see another. It has happened before, but I would guess it happens so rarely that it’s a nonissue.
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Hi all, sorry for being thick, but what thing I still don’t understand is this:
Having submitted an image for IOTD consideration, if I then add more data the following year and reprocess it (for example, I took a 10-hour RGB image last year and now I’ve added 20 hours of Ha to it), can I then not re-submit the new image for consideration? Or do I have to re-upload as a new image?
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John Nedelcu · Dec 22, 2025, 10:55 PM
Having submitted an image for IOTD consideration, if I then add more data the following year and reprocess it (for example, I took a 10-hour RGB image last year and now I’ve added 20 hours of Ha to it), can I then not re-submit the new image for consideration? Or do I have to re-upload as a new image?
Per the rules, that's considered significant new data and a reprise of a project under new conditions, and you are allowed to submit again for IOTD/TP consideration. To do this you need to upload it as a new image (a revision won't work in that respect).
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Salvatore Iovene · Dec 22, 2025, 10:59 PM
John Nedelcu · Dec 22, 2025, 10:55 PM
Having submitted an image for IOTD consideration, if I then add more data the following year and reprocess it (for example, I took a 10-hour RGB image last year and now I’ve added 20 hours of Ha to it), can I then not re-submit the new image for consideration? Or do I have to re-upload as a new image?
Per the rules, that's considered significant new data and a reprise of a project under new conditions, and you are allowed to submit again for IOTD/TP consideration. To do this you need to upload it as a new image (a revision won't work in that respect).
Thank you for the reply!
That’s what I thought. It would be nice to have the option to withdraw an image for this specific scenario, so that we don’t have to upload it again. :)
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John Nedelcu · Dec 22, 2025, 11:03 PM
That’s what I thought. It would be nice to have the option to withdraw an image for this specific scenario, so that we don’t have to upload it again. :)
You would be advised to upload it again anyway. Revisions are meant for different processing styles, crops, or just deciding on a whim to add more data after a few days.
I don't really know how to actually draw the line, but I think you have a feeling of what constitutes a “project”.
If you come back next year, it's a different project, or you'd have a single image on AstroBin for every object in the sky, and just keep adding revisions over the year.
That's a valid approach, I'm not dismissing it.
Absolutely, I see your point, and it makes sense. But yes, if it were me, I’d just have one submission for each target with a new revision every time new data was added (call it “milestone”).
No worries, at least it’s clear how to do go about situations like this.
One more question: Can I copy/transfer the sessions from my previous image, or do I need to add them again for the new one?
It would be nice to be able to withdraw an image from consideration in case it was submitted by accident. I have had that happen a couple times over the years (totally my fault, of course 🙄). It is a shame to waste staff time when a user had not intended to submit.
In that case resubmission should maybe be prohibited until either substantial new data is present or a long time has gone by (like a year) or maybe both (with a suitable pop-up warning before execution 🙂).
Not a big deal for me but maybe or maybe not a big deal for the staff.
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